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johnbhoy  
#1 Posted : 01 June 2013 21:12:47(UTC)
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johnbhoy

Has anybody had any experience with the HSE with regards to the Fee For Intervention.In Scotland we are finding the they don't want to help and just apply the FFI. An example is the the COSSH assessment from the manufactures for mixing render made no reference to asbestos and the HSE applied the FFI to the contractor. I would appreciate any comments or your thoughts on this.
Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 01 June 2013 21:57:39(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Something very wrong here johnboy. Manufacturers don't make or supply COSHH assessments. COSHH doesn't apply to asbestos. In any event, why would you want to reference a potential for a product no longer permitted to be supplied? If any of what you state is mentioned in your FFI action then I suggest it is incompetent and needs to be challenged.
johnbhoy  
#3 Posted : 01 June 2013 22:18:11(UTC)
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johnbhoy

ron hunter wrote:
Something very wrong here johnboy. Manufacturers don't make or supply COSHH assessments. COSHH doesn't apply to asbestos. In any event, why would you want to reference a potential for a product no longer permitted to be supplied? If any of what you state is mentioned in your FFI action then I suggest it is incompetent and needs to be challenged.
Thanks for the advice I will discuss your info with our safety team and see what action they advise me to take
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 01 June 2013 22:54:36(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Any chance of quoting us the text of the "material breach"?
Sweep  
#5 Posted : 02 June 2013 11:21:44(UTC)
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Sweep

Agree with Ron, the text of the breach would be vey useful here. I would be very surprised if the breach was linked to asbestos as there is no link.
peter gotch  
#6 Posted : 03 June 2013 13:02:28(UTC)
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peter gotch

John I don't understand why an HSE Inspector would anticipate there being any asbestos in the render to be mixed. It's import has been outlawed in the UK for years. You should be confident that any structure built from 2000 is asbestos free.
BJC  
#7 Posted : 04 June 2013 15:11:11(UTC)
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I have heard the Inspector who attains the highest fees gets an award / bonus.
Shineon55  
#8 Posted : 04 June 2013 15:17:14(UTC)
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Shineon55

BJC wrote:
I have heard the Inspector who attains the highest fees gets an award / bonus.
mmmmm....heard from who? I suspect that's not actually true - you might want to contact the myth busters panel.
anorak  
#9 Posted : 04 June 2013 18:52:54(UTC)
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anorak

shineon55 wrote:
BJC wrote:
I have heard the Inspector who attains the highest fees gets an award / bonus.
mmmmm....heard from who? I suspect that's not actually true - you might want to contact the myth busters panel.
Whilst the bonus scheme may not be true, I was informed by a lead inspector that if targets were not met then redundancies would follow, all inspectors were told this. Having had experience of the FFI scheme the practical advisory approach has been left in the office, what would have been considered as having a word in the past is now being penalised, although this will certainly be down to the inspector concerned.
Martin law  
#10 Posted : 05 June 2013 10:37:03(UTC)
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Martin law

John, Are you sure the render was being applied? and not being broken off from an old property hence creating dust particles and the need for you to generate a COSHH assessment? Although if it was to contain asbestos i'm pretty sure you'd have bigger problems on your hands than FFI. The scenario is very confusing, as previously stated by Ron a supplier/manufacturer doesn't generate COSHH assessments that is the duty of the user/handler. You should certainly request MSDS from them when receiving such products.
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