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lisar  
#1 Posted : 06 June 2013 11:51:56(UTC)
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lisar

Hello, Currently we are experiencing a high volume of staff dropping items onto their feet. What people arent realising including managers is the domino effect of the accident. The cause and effect from a foot injury is "well , something fell on their foot" which as we know isnt the real issue. We have revisited this with a poster campaign in the past and last year did an E-learning course on manual handling that all employees took within a month of the course being available. Employees are carrying too many items in one go. If anyone has anything thats a punchy attention grabber but not a paperowrk excerise let me know. As always very grateful for your help xxxxxxxx
stuie  
#2 Posted : 06 June 2013 20:16:57(UTC)
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stuie

Lisar, Don't take this the wrong way - but have they been shown how to carry/move stuff? E learning is all well and good if the delegates take away the message; in your case I would suggest that this is not the case. IMHO manual handling training should include at least a 1/4 of the course with the instructor showing them the correct techniques with the items that they will be expected to move - all well and good on the screen but not so good in real life; unless you have a bespoke course? Yes it will tick the boxes - but if the delegates have just sat in front of a screen 'because they have to' then in my books the money has been wasted. This may not be what you want to hear; but revisit the training with the stuff that they are carrying or moving - observe them doing the tasks and then show/coach them into the correct methods and techniques. Also revisit your MH assessments to see if the tasks can be modified in some way to reduce risk etc. You can then look at the behavoiural element as you say 'they are carrying too many items in one go'; as well as asking yourself why they are doing so. HTH Stuart
lisar  
#3 Posted : 06 June 2013 20:30:11(UTC)
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lisar

Yes, they have physical demonstration done at induction and on refreshers. Im looking for a new way to engage with staff
dennish  
#4 Posted : 07 June 2013 05:51:43(UTC)
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dennish

lisar, carry out some SAT's (safety awareness tours) with the management team specifically looking at manual handling, give feedback to the individuals goods & improvement opportunities,explain/ demonstrate good practice & the reasons why good manual handling techniques are important. also do the 5 why's on why they are carrying so many items.
andybz  
#5 Posted : 07 June 2013 09:15:45(UTC)
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andybz

You identify the cause as employees carrying too many items in one go. I think you need to ask why they feel the need to do that, and why others are allowing (or encouraging) them to do that. I suggest that will be a more fruitful area to explore, rather than different manual handling training.
David Bannister  
#6 Posted : 07 June 2013 09:39:28(UTC)
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David Bannister

Catching practice and clogs? Sorry, it's a brilliantly sunny Friday.
cheifinspector  
#7 Posted : 07 June 2013 09:45:48(UTC)
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cheifinspector

In addition to manual handling, you could also highlight the dangers of dropped objects. This would add an extra dimension to your training and hopefully get the guys thinking of the additional hazards that they are creating.
ctd167  
#8 Posted : 07 June 2013 10:22:28(UTC)
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ctd167

If a pattern of injuries are occuring, its usually down to a lack of, or poor supervision. Happened at my company with knife injuries to hands, we got the supervisors in, discussed a way forward and there responsabilities, and reduced knife injuries by nearly 80%. Result.
Mr.Flibble  
#9 Posted : 07 June 2013 10:54:14(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble

An old training method I used to use was using Jam Doughnuts to explain what happens when you damage a disc in the back. I used to squish (good word squish) the doughnut causing the jam to come out at the side, good effect. Then let people eat the rest of the doughnuts. If they remember anything its the doughnut and the story that goes with it. Could try something similar. Put a doughnut on the floor, drop something on it and tell them that it could have been their foot! :)
DavidGault  
#10 Posted : 07 June 2013 12:58:20(UTC)
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DavidGault

If you want to wake them up to the possible injuries don't talk to them about how they may injure themselves - talk to them about how they may injure other people accidentally. So for example if they are carrying several objects highlight the fact that it may be convenient for them but what if they drop it on a friend's foot. We tend to take more chances with our own health than we do with others. Also, people are sometimes reluctant to ask for help when they need a two person lift so I usually ask people to think how they feel when they are asked to help with a lift. The usual answer is that we are more than happy to help - so don't hesitate to ask for help someone will be glad to do it. Overall get them to question their mindset in relation to other people.
chris42  
#11 Posted : 07 June 2013 14:22:14(UTC)
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chris42

All the training in the world will do no good if the reason they are carrying too many items at once is because they feel pressured into doing so. While undertaking PTLLS training I had to do a micro teach, which I did on manual handling, due to time constraints I chose to get the others to lift an item from the floor turn through 180 degrees and place it back on the floor for the next person in the conga line. To distract them I played the hokey cokey music. They got the idea of correct stance, technique, turning using feet and a bit of fun at the same time. This was done at the end of the teach following instruction on all the issues. They said it made it memorable, they could have lied.
Malcolm  
#12 Posted : 07 June 2013 15:05:48(UTC)
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Malcolm

Hi, First thing to look at is the route cause, why do they feel they have to carry so many items at one time? Is their another method they could use i.e. trolley. In my experience people will only carry out these activities if they are allowed to as per one of the other responses poor supervision not challenging bad practice. I have introduced a back care team who are trained to look at correct handling and lifting techniques, once a week the team go round and identify bad habits and recommend alternatives, these are all part of the work force including supervisors and safety representatives, these results are logged and persistent offenders spoken to on a one to one basis. Our results have been excellent 75% reduction in reported muscleskeletal injuries in the past three years. All training needs to be task specific our training lasts for three hours per session by an external specialist provider who have worked with many companies large and small but they do get results.
riskybizz  
#13 Posted : 13 June 2013 09:58:35(UTC)
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riskybizz

Could you not "Drop the doughnut" on your foot?
IanDakin  
#14 Posted : 13 June 2013 10:46:57(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi Lisa Sounds like a trolley is required, plus train managers to monitor and enforce this. Ian
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