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harpa  
#1 Posted : 14 June 2013 08:08:05(UTC)
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harpa

Just a quick one. What's peoples views on clipping onto chain blocks (with fall arrest lanyard but no inertia reel in place) using it as an anchorage point to work from? Is it viewed as bad practice, does anyone know if there is actually any guidance that advises against this practice? Cheers in advance for any views/help.
Safety Witch  
#2 Posted : 14 June 2013 08:50:26(UTC)
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Safety Witch

Probably not the best idea (what if someone operates the crane) but in the absence of anything else its better thatn nothing.
AllanFS  
#3 Posted : 14 June 2013 09:25:27(UTC)
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AllanFS

Harpa. I take its Riggers Chain Blocks you are talking about. Try to Use a Double Lanyard and use the Traversing system when moving from one point to another, in order that the operative is Hooked on at all times. If there is no other Safe/Secure Anchorage Point, then Clipping on to the Chain Block cant be a problem as long as a Rescue plan is in place in retrieving a Fallen operative. I myself have clipped on to Chain Blocks in the Past due to there being no suitable points.
harpa  
#4 Posted : 14 June 2013 11:45:51(UTC)
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harpa

Hi Allan, Yes it is Riggers chain blocks I was referring to. My concern would be that if someone did fall would the block be man enough to take the shock load or could the guts get ripped oiut it with the force? Obviously this depends on the rating of the block but I'm not sure that much thought is given to that when someone takes the decision to clip on. I guess I'm just thinking how much more effort would it be to get scaffs in to put a couple points to clip to in a given work area.
AllanFS  
#5 Posted : 14 June 2013 13:38:43(UTC)
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AllanFS

If its Scaffs you are talking about, then they should be working to their SSOW, in order to provide suitable anchor points. If that Fails then the Scaffs need to consider other methods of Other Fall Arrest Options such as Inertia Reels which some have a Length of at least 6 metres or more. On the subject of the Block Carrying the Weight of a Person? Remember these are Designed to Take various Weights anyway but I would recommend the Inertia Reel System being a Ex Scaffolder Myself.
harpa  
#6 Posted : 15 June 2013 21:32:30(UTC)
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harpa

It was riggers I was referring to. I was just making the point that it wouldn't take much to get the scaffs to rig them up a couple points overhead to clip to. I know the blocks are rated to 2 tonne but that is when a weight is gradually taken up through use of the chains, I am concerned more about the shock load placed on the block if a person was to fall, as this can be many times the weight of the individual. Not sure on the calcs but it can very surprising the amount of force someone dropping 10ft can generate
frankc  
#7 Posted : 15 June 2013 22:36:16(UTC)
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frankc

harpa wrote:
Just a quick one. What's peoples views on clipping onto chain blocks (with fall arrest lanyard but no inertia reel in place) using it as an anchorage point to work from? Is it viewed as bad practice, does anyone know if there is actually any guidance that advises against this practice? Cheers in advance for any views/help.
I'm fairly certain i have seen evidence that chain blocks SHOULD NOT be used for fall arrest as they are not designed to accept the necessary shock loading of a person falling a distance. I'll try and locate the evidence. In the meantime, check the M.I.M. for the blocks.
frankc  
#8 Posted : 26 June 2013 16:12:20(UTC)
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frankc

harpa wrote:
Just a quick one. What's peoples views on clipping onto chain blocks (with fall arrest lanyard but no inertia reel in place) using it as an anchorage point to work from? Is it viewed as bad practice, does anyone know if there is actually any guidance that advises against this practice? Cheers in advance for any views/help.
Just asked a lifting expert at Vertikal Days and he said under no circumstances should you hook your lanyard on to the hook of a set a chain blocks. Chain blocks are for lifting, lowering and suspending a load but not for accepting a shock load. He also mentioned the catch on the hook of the chain block wasn't suitable and sufficient to prevent the lanyard being ripped off the block during a potential fall.
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