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ivorheadache  
#1 Posted : 14 June 2013 10:12:50(UTC)
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ivorheadache

Hi all. quick question. Is there are legal requirement to fit a Carbon monoxide detector in a commercial premises? This is an office environment with a gas boiler on site. I googled 'Carbon monoxide detectors' and kept getting advice on residential premises. My opinion, not needed as the boiler is regularly serviced (Gas-Safe) and no-one sleeps on the premises. Would like to hear yours. Many thanks.
IanDakin  
#2 Posted : 14 June 2013 10:17:51(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi The risk if the boiler is maintained is low. Even lower if it a balanced flue or room sealed boiler. But, I would ask your Gas Safe contractor. Ian
ivorheadache  
#3 Posted : 14 June 2013 17:31:19(UTC)
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ivorheadache

Thanks Ian.
Canopener  
#4 Posted : 14 June 2013 17:41:06(UTC)
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Canopener

I don't think that there is a specific requirement to do so, but Ian's suggestion seems sensible. On the other hand, my recollection is that they are pretty reasonably priced so it might not be a bad investment if you don't have 100's of premises to fit. I did have a slight smirk to myself when i saw that Ivor headache was asking a question about CO!
Nick-H  
#5 Posted : 14 June 2013 22:50:55(UTC)
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Nick-H

In the absence of specific legislation (and I am not aware of any), the need for a monitor will be determined by risk assessment under HASWA and COSHH. One does not need to be asleep to be affected by CO, so simple issues to address in an assessment would be: Type and siting of boiler Maintenance Volume of room in which it is located air flow and changes per hour whether people are routinely in vicinity (especially anyone who spends considerable periods of time in close proximity) etc,etc. You get the idea. This brings to mind the very sad recent case of the mother and daughter who died on a boat in the lake district. Obviously a different scenario to the one the OP is describing, but a CO detector was installed and would have alerted the occupants to the CO build-up if it had power to it.... Very sad. As Canopener commented, the price of detectors is low and they are easily fitted, so this could easily be argued to be reasonably practicable in a work environment.
Nick-H  
#6 Posted : 14 June 2013 23:27:18(UTC)
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Nick-H

I should also have said that the provision of a CO monitor needs some thought and cannot just be a "fit and forget" job. Once you have decided to fit one (if you do, based on your risk assessment), the item becomes work equipment and so is covered under PUWER, with the emphasis on both provision (making sure you fit an appropriate one and in the right place, etc) AND use (maintenance thereof and routine, documented, testing for functionality). I refer back to the tragic boat incident again.
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