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vinod  
#1 Posted : 19 June 2013 10:55:22(UTC)
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vinod

Dear All, On safety grounds, is it safe to allow using Hydrofluoric Acid in chemical cleaning of boilers. I was told by someone that the normal one used now is Citric acid. Any thought?
Jane Blunt  
#2 Posted : 19 June 2013 12:00:25(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

It depends whether the citric acid will do the job. If it will, then it is a no-brainer - hydrofluoric acid is very much more dangerous than any other acid, so you should always look for a safer alternative. On the other hand, if it needs hydrofluoric acid to remove the contaminents, then you have to use it! Hydrofluoric acid in suitable concentrations can remove glasses; other acids won't.
chris.packham  
#3 Posted : 19 June 2013 12:18:29(UTC)
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chris.packham

What concentration of hydrofluoric acid would you be using? This can make a considerable difference to the type of PPE you will require. Chris
vinod  
#4 Posted : 19 June 2013 12:26:21(UTC)
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vinod

According to their procedure to acidify the solution the dose with hydrofluoric acid to a concentration of 1% to dissolve the iron oxide scales and magnetite present.
chris.packham  
#5 Posted : 19 June 2013 13:50:58(UTC)
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chris.packham

Purely by chance I have the following on my laptop. You might find this interesting reading (and perhaps a reason to take a look at potential alternatives). http://web.utk.edu/~ehss/training/has.pdf Chris
vinod  
#6 Posted : 19 June 2013 14:46:19(UTC)
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vinod

Thanks all, Chris it was so informative.
jay  
#7 Posted : 19 June 2013 16:28:47(UTC)
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jay

HF acid is more hazardous, but the choice of the cleaning agent(s) will depend upon the system, the size and the techniques utilsed. I presume you may be referring to fairly large power plant boiler systems and not the smaller industrial ones! Refer to:- Use of ammoniated citric acid for the chemical cleaning of high pressure boilers:- http://www.angelfire.com...lcleaning/webboiler.html Reducing time and costs cleaning Heat Recovery Steam Generators http://www.vecom.nl/engl...Bulletin-2010-06-ENG.pdf
descarte8  
#8 Posted : 20 June 2013 10:07:23(UTC)
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descarte8

HF is one of the most horrible acids I know of, where ever possible i never allow its use unless only in the most extreme of circumstances. http://www.hse.gov.uk/pr...coshh&cr=20-Mar-2013 http://emedicine.medscap.../article/773304-overview You say they dose the solution to 1% HF, what concentration HF are they dosing with? A skin burn from contact with diluted solutions of less than 20% concentration is characterized by pain and erythema (redness) with a latent period of about 24 hours. Delay of recognition of contact with diluted solutions often results in more severe burns because of the delay in washing or irrigation. The pain and erythema of the skin burn from contact with 20-50% solutions becomes apparent 1-8 hours after the exposure. When contact is made with concentrated solutions of above 50%, immediate pain and tissue destruction is apparent. There are various kinds of symptoms depending on the severity of the burn such as erythema alone, central blanching with peripheral erythema, swelling, serious burns, ulceration, blue-grey discoloration and necrosis. Systematic fluorosis may also occur with larger burns.
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