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Well after waiting 3 months for a slot I had my peer review yesterday
panel of 3 women which was good to see
I think I did okay, presentation went well and i didn't disgrace myself on the questions
for those waiting they really do try to put you at ease and it isn't an interrogation!
Biggest tip i can give - say "I" not "we"
I thought the questions were a fair reflection of what they were trying to establish
now for the long wait - wish me luck!
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Well done and Good Luck
Mine on Monday next week!!!
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Best wishes to both of you. I had a colleague who regularly sat on these panels (also female). The process is not there to catch you out and the reviewers are on your side!
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Good luck buddy :-)
Sounds like yours went alot smoother than mine, so I'm sure you'll have passed.
ianjones wrote:
Biggest tip i can give - say "I" not "we"
Almost impossible! I still tripped up a few times and that was whilst continuously reminding myself to say "I"!! - Human nature I guess...
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saying "we" shows you are a team player
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walker wrote:saying "we" shows you are a team player
I recall from other posts you're CMIOSH, do you not remember the interview? You literally loose "marks" for saying "we". The panel explicitly states that they only want you to talk about you and what you did (if part of project or a team, the actions you completed).
I agree that there should be more emphasis on team working though.
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Maybe a smiley was needed
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.. or my "tongue-in-cheek-comment" filter upgraded!
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Despite your fears, we are generally a nice bunch of normal people and will try to make the process as painless as possible for you! Most people on the panel have been through the process themselves and know what it's like, so should be sensitive to the fact that you may well be nervous. Try to relax and enjoy yourself - I bet it's not often that you get to tell everyone how good you are for a whole hour.
And yes, using 'I' is vital - it IS all about you, after all :-). You can talk about team projects, but within that context we would want to know what YOUR role was.
Stu (peer review chair, not female :-) )
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Ouch!
I had mine too yesterday, i think w may have met at 13:30 at the Grange, I think I've made a right boo boo of it as i didn't really consider the 'I' / 'We' issue at all and probably said 'We' too much when i should have said 'I' as i tend to do this a lot when chatting to folk outside of my organisation. Oh well, have to have another crack at it if I've messed this one up.
Good luck with yours Ian, it sounds like it went well.
Stu Gilkinson
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It's not that long ago that I finished examining an entire set of final year research honours degree students.
That' quite a task, but in the main is quite enjoyable. It IS a discussion, though a somewhat one-sided one.
I offer students a practice session, and for many of them it helps get over their initial trepidation. If you can, get a colleague to put you through the 'inquisition'. Give full answers, and chat! Don't dive short staccato answers then panic at what seems like an eternity of silence. Keep going, but listen to yourself and know when to drift toward another related area where you have something useful to say. That is far better that saying too much about a topic of which you know little and then realise that you're talking rubbish. Be prepared to say I don't know.
Most of my students come in shaking and go out with a smile because it isn't as bad as them imagine. And neither should it be.
Expect, and I'm sure its true for any properly structured viva including those which as not part of an academic course of study, some quite specific techy questions. Take those, give an answer then run with the topic to 'add value' to your answer. Other questions or statements on which you might be invited to comment will be far more general or conceptual. Say what you think not just what you expect is required of you, especially when you are unsure, since that would be a good way of digging yourself into a hole. Be prepared for follow-up questions to challenge your comments - if managed properly its just like any other discussion and if you perform well you will be far more in charge of that conversation than you might imagine.
Most university students come out wondering if they missed something important or said the wrong thing. Personally, I could never be bothered with a post-exam post mortem with my fellow students but some do. The most common comment is how quickly it went.
Just sit back and look forward to some hopefully good news
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Just got my 'official unofficial' letter
delighted to say I have been recognized for CMIOSH
now waiting for the ratification committee on the 11th August
I hope everyone else on the day passed as well?
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I had my interview last week of June, and have been recommended for CMIOSH. Throughout the process the panel reminded me to discuss what I had done, this help prevent you straying of the path. You can talk about team work, for they are interested in which part you played.
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StuartGilkinson wrote:Ouch!
I had mine too yesterday, i think w may have met at 13:30 at the Grange, I think I've made a right boo boo of it as i didn't really consider the 'I' / 'We' issue at all and probably said 'We' too much when i should have said 'I' as i tend to do this a lot when chatting to folk outside of my organisation. Oh well, have to have another crack at it if I've messed this one up.
Good luck with yours Ian, it sounds like it went well.
Stu Gilkinson
Recomended also, so I musn't have waffled on about 'us' instead of 'I' as much as I thought, which I'm glad about because I'm the only advisor for a very diverese organisation of around 600 persons and I've created all of our H&S systems, immplemented and maintained them over the pass few years all on my own - pheeew :0)
Fingers crossed for the confirmatory 'rubber stamp' now.
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Congratulations to you all!
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