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A Kurdziel  
#1 Posted : 31 July 2013 16:04:09(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Having had a look at ‘First aid cover in a College environment’ thread I just thought- how many of you actually pay your first aiders anything on top of the usual remuneration? Our employer doesn’t and this seems to be standard in the civil service. Are your employers more generous?
AdrianW  
#2 Posted : 31 July 2013 16:16:47(UTC)
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AdrianW

Our organisation pays appointed First aiders and Fire Wardens an additional sum to cover these duties. The amount is paid to them every 3 or 4 months.
ctd167  
#3 Posted : 31 July 2013 16:43:20(UTC)
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ctd167

My background is construction and the last company i worked for paid first aiders and fire wardens £5/ week for each service. My present company pays nothing and our MD wonders why nobody volunteered, not even himself! In the end i had to put a strong case across of why they should do it and got the required 'volunteers', but its still a bone of contention.
Mr.Flibble  
#4 Posted : 31 July 2013 16:56:43(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble

Ours get paid £20 a month and we still have trouble finding volunteers!
dennish  
#5 Posted : 31 July 2013 18:19:32(UTC)
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dennish

we give 1 days additional holiday,
damelcfc  
#6 Posted : 31 July 2013 19:18:12(UTC)
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damelcfc

Yes, a token amount circa £5 a week. This has been the case at all Manufacturing establishments I have worked in the last 20 years also if that helps.
Matt090567  
#7 Posted : 31 July 2013 21:41:29(UTC)
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Matt090567

Hi A Kurdziel The company I used to work for added an additional £500 a year to your salary. Matt
stevedm  
#8 Posted : 31 July 2013 21:45:33(UTC)
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stevedm

There are a couple of pharmaceutical firms that pay similar to matt
Jeff Watt  
#9 Posted : 31 July 2013 23:23:20(UTC)
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Jeff Watt

In the old LGC terms and conditions for workers in local government (once known as the purple book but not that "purple book" hsg 195) a stipend was payable to volunteers who were first aiders. So traditionally available to employees in local government but half the people I met never knew about it. Encouraged quite a few people to do the courses then subsequently have sudden onset amnesia when needed. Like a quinine drill bit I am still bitter and twisted about that.
Canopener  
#10 Posted : 01 August 2013 12:38:52(UTC)
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Canopener

We used to pay £8 per month, paid annually and thereafter as a voucher, as something more of a tangible benefit. We now don’t pay anything and I don’t have any problem getting first aiders. Most staff are happy to do this and learn a useful and 'transferable' skill. If I recall correctly, first aid payments never formed part of the purple book arrangements, but did form part of the arrangements for ‘manual’ workers prior to single status/harmonisation and that some public sector employers then used this as a basis for paying NPT&C staff. Happy to be wrong though. A recent employment survey has indicated that nearly half of employers did pay an allowance that it was more common place in the public sector, but that the private sector actually paid more, £150 against £109. The average across all sectors was £150
Ron Hunter  
#11 Posted : 01 August 2013 12:43:47(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Many employers in the public sector are taking the opportunity during restructuring and reorganisation to make First Aid training a prerequisite of certain posts. Thereafter, no additional allowance is paid.
hilary  
#12 Posted : 01 August 2013 12:48:47(UTC)
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hilary

Our first aiders get a bonus payable in the Christmas pay run :)
grumpyB  
#13 Posted : 01 August 2013 14:36:17(UTC)
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grumpyB

We don't pay any extra and have to beat off applicants with a stick! As canopener pointed out, many staff are happy to gain a transferrable skill for no cost to themselves. The parents of young children were particularly keen to have this confidence booster to take into their domestic life.
Graham Bullough  
#14 Posted : 01 August 2013 15:12:46(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

The comments by canopener at #10 and grumpyb at #13 about employees being keen to be trained in first aid make welcome reading, and echo what I found with quite a number of the schools I worked with in my last job. They offered first aid training to all employees, not just those designated as first aiders, and found that most or all employees were very keen to have the training. Just to turn the thread heading on its head, I wonder how much employees would be willing to pay their employers to get first aid training leading to a certificate, especially if it were provided during work time! p.s. On a much more jocular note, I'm also wondering about the stick mentioned by grumpyb: Is it merely waved at the excessive numbers of aspiring applicants to achieve a deterrent effect? If not, are they slapped with the side of the stick and/or prodded with its end, perhaps suitably pointed for extra effect?!!!! :-)
johnld  
#15 Posted : 01 August 2013 19:37:31(UTC)
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johnld

The Universities Health and Safety Association had done a number of surveys to gather information regarding remuneration for first aiders in the HE Sector. There is no consistency across the sector with some universities paying very generous remunerations but others not making any payments. John
CliveLowery  
#16 Posted : 02 August 2013 08:35:00(UTC)
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CliveLowery

We do not pay any of our staff for being First Aiders. It is a pre-requisite for our Site Based Project/Contracts Managers and for the office staff we have three volunteers that I have already trained and the remaining four all want to attend the next course I run. We have never had a problem getting volunteer first aiders. Regards Clive
IanF  
#17 Posted : 02 August 2013 10:59:32(UTC)
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IanF

I also work in the civil service, and there is a mix of paid and non-paid staff: this was prior to an amalgamation which took place, and is apparently in certain people's contracts. Amount appeared to be around £100 a year, either as a one-off payment, or split as monthly payments.
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