Hi HSE's 'Press Release' for 1st Aug says this has been issued and is available on their website, but the links seem to just send me round and round in circles: anyone able to help? Thanks Kevin

It appears that the contents of the new HSG 65 are already there , but not in PDF format at:- http://www.hse.gov.uk/managing/ As stated in the press release, the new guidance moves away from using the POPMAR (Policy, Organising, Planning, Measuring performance, Auditing and Review) model of managing health and safety to a ‘Plan, Do, Check, Act’ approach. The justification appears to be that the move towards ‘Plan, Do, Check, Act’ achieves a better balance between the systems and behavioural aspects of management. It also treats health and safety management as an integral part of good management generally, rather than as a stand-alone system. A paper was discussed at the HSE Board meeting on 13th january 2013 regardining "Managing for heath and safety’ (HSG65 Refreshed) i.e to update the Board on progress with development of the guidance ‘Managing for health and safety’ (to succeed HSG65 ‘Successful health and safety management’). http://www.hse.gov.uk/ab...013/300113/pjanb1313.pdf The minutes of the board meeting, point number 16:- at :-- http://www.hse.gov.uk/ab...013/300113/mjanb1301.pdf Proposal to withdraw the Health and Safety (Management) Regulations Approved Code of Practice (ACOP). Includes Overview of the architecture of all Health and Safety Guidance and “Managing for Health and Safety” – HSG65 refreshed. (HSE/13/12 & HSE/13/13)

PDCA is a well known acronym, initially used in Quality Management Systems, but now universally acknowledged. http://asq.org/learn-abo...overview/pdca-cycle.html Not surprising that at last HSE has decided to adopt it for HSG 65. Due to the previous HSG 65 using POPMAR, the 1996 (1st) version of BS 8800 ( Guide to Occupational Health & Safety Management Systems) had both routes to managing safety! BS 8800:1996 was revised in 2006 when it only had the HSG 65 route , and now BS 8800 is superseded by BS 18004:2008 that has the PDCA route

I agree, it just seems to be in line with OHSAS18001 - repeat the circle or why change?

So ‘Plan Do Check Act’ is the same as POPIMAR only different headings! The graphic mentions under PLAN- Policy and Implementation, DO includes Organising; Check includes monitoring and ACT includes Reviewing. Can we run a spot the difference competition?