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MEden380  
#1 Posted : 02 August 2013 16:39:01(UTC)
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MEden380

Anyone ever carried out a Risk Assessment for a Stag Evening? Age Range 20 - 70 Drinking Capacity of those attending - Very little to quite a lot Meal - The usual Curry Means of Transport - The Train Any help or useful suggestions much appreciated
David Bannister  
#2 Posted : 02 August 2013 16:46:37(UTC)
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David Bannister

Stick with "High" for everything. Don't bother with controls - they won't be effective anyway.
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 02 August 2013 16:56:09(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The key to any Safe System is surely adequate Supervision, Information, Instruction and Training? Supervision: (By buddy-system) Will you make sure you pour me on the last train at 23:00 please? Supervision: (buddy, next day) You didn't say WHICH train. Information: The agreed first watering hole - Name. Google Map. Coordinates. Time and Date. Information: I'll be home by 2 a.m. Dear. Instruction: You'll be home by Midnight - or else! Instruction: No, it's YOUR round Training: (verb) the act of spending the night (a) under a seat (b) in the luggage rack, or (c) in the brake van in a train at a Depot at least 50 miles from your home. Drink responsibly - always wipe the neck of the bottle before passing it on. SSOW = Safe Stag Outing /Weekender.
Nicola Kemmery  
#4 Posted : 02 August 2013 17:05:44(UTC)
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Nicola Kemmery

Don't forget to plan for emergencies - always carry a mobile phone and a credit card - or even better a name tag with your home address - a la Paddington Bear!
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 02 August 2013 17:13:18(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Ah yes - forgot the credit card. A handy emergency spoon/knife for eating that take away Chinese or Indian. Whilst yellow staining may persist, the Card will usually continue to function normally thereafter. Unless inadvertantly binned along with the foil tray of course. And do try to take a cheap and cheerful Mobile Phone with you - one you can afford to lose, and one that doesn't light up like a beacon and attract the undesirables as you stagger home from the Station having already lost your wallet and having no money for a Taxi Apart that is from the emergency £20 you put in the back pocket of your trousers and won't remember about until the Missus peels it out of the washing machine later in the week.
Zimmy  
#6 Posted : 02 August 2013 17:57:05(UTC)
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Zimmy

Keep away from tattoo parlours and the name 'Ivor Biggun' is not funny in the mornings :-)
Zimmy  
#7 Posted : 02 August 2013 17:57:42(UTC)
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Zimmy

Sorry girls...I know...ban zimmy again
Victor Meldrew  
#8 Posted : 02 August 2013 18:22:40(UTC)
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Victor Meldrew

MEden380 wrote:
Anyone ever carried out a Risk Assessment for a Stag Evening? As outlined in a previous thread today, why don't you just make one up ;-)
Graham Bullough  
#9 Posted : 03 August 2013 10:40:51(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

As my internet access was out of action again yesterday I only saw this thread this morning and had a good chuckle at the witty responses above. Judging from TV documentaries about railways which include station staff trying to cope with drunken men and women late at night, Nicola K's suggestion of Paddington Bear-style name & address tags seems eminently sensible! The topic reminds me of situation some years ago when a friend told his wife he'd been invited to a stag party. Apparently she did a quick mental risk assessment and instructed him not to go on the basis of her understanding that men tend to get too silly and drink too much at such events - and she wanted her husband to be sober and able to drive her to the wedding next morning. This prompts the suggestion that men who wish to have stag nights should try to avoid having them the night before their weddings. This topic also reminds me of seeing an old photo of a red deer stag inside a small youth hostel in a very remote part of the Scotland Highlands. From when the stag had been a calf (possibly orphaned) the hostel warden had given it scraps of food, especially during snowy weather which greatly hindered grass grazing. As a result the stag had become semi-tame to the extent that it would venture inside the hostel lounge, presumably tempted by pieces of food from the warden. The photo had no caption but certainly deserved one - for which an obvious contender was "Best stag party I've ever been to!" For the sake of gender balance, does anyone wish to offer advice about hen parties?!!! :-)
firesafety101  
#10 Posted : 03 August 2013 11:54:46(UTC)
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firesafety101

Hen Parties, my advice - don't even think about it ???????
Matt090567  
#11 Posted : 03 August 2013 22:55:20(UTC)
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Matt090567

ron hunter wrote:
The key to any Safe System is surely adequate Supervision, Information, Instruction and Training? Supervision: (By buddy-system) Will you make sure you pour me on the last train at 23:00 please? Supervision: (buddy, next day) You didn't say WHICH train. Information: The agreed first watering hole - Name. Google Map. Coordinates. Time and Date. Information: I'll be home by 2 a.m. Dear. Instruction: You'll be home by Midnight - or else! Instruction: No, it's YOUR round Training: (verb) the act of spending the night (a) under a seat (b) in the luggage rack, or (c) in the brake van in a train at a Depot at least 50 miles from your home. Ron got to be the best answer to any thread I've read so far had me chuckling for a while. Don't think I could add anything to that....LOL Matt Drink responsibly - always wipe the neck of the bottle before passing it on. SSOW = Safe Stag Outing /Weekender.
grim72  
#12 Posted : 06 August 2013 08:58:48(UTC)
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grim72

Issue everyone with a paddle before you start. I always end up without one when I find myself up a creek at the end of a stag do.
stevedm  
#13 Posted : 06 August 2013 10:36:10(UTC)
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stevedm

On a rather more serious note...one staff member decided to have his stage party locally nearly died after 2 pints...mixed with allsorts. He was diagnosed later as having Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome after having several MRIs. Not a heavy alcohol user so rare (He's only 35!)...this could affect his future employment Plus the guys stated the first responders didn't clear his C spine (non-UK response Italy)...
Graham Bullough  
#14 Posted : 07 August 2013 11:15:01(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

On a serious note with regard to any types of parties involving excessive consumption of alcohol at non-domestic venues and/or travel home afterwards, spare a thought for the employees of organisations who have to deal with drunken people who are unruly or aggressive or become especially vulnerable to injury because of their self-inflicted condition. The spectrum of such employees is wide and includes bus drivers, security staff, e.g. bouncers at night clubs, staff at railway stations and on trains, police officers, ambulance paramedics and doctors and nurses working in hospital A&E departments. I know of a former A&E consultant who chose to leave casualty medicine some years ago mainly through frustration with having to cope with ever-increasing numbers of patients who are very drunk. TV documentaries about A&E departments contain ample examples of such patients and incapable of co-operating with staff or, worse still, threaten them. Though actual assaults tend not to be shown on TV, it seems that many A&E doctors and nurses have either been assaulted by drunken patients or know close colleagues who have suffered such experiences. Firesafety101 - I would find it difficult not to think about hen parties! This is because in recent years on buses and trains I've observed gaggles of women, usually youngish, wearing outlandish garb and/or hats which immediately proclaim to others that they are hen party groups. On an occupational note, it seems that stag parties and hen parties have become a significant source of income for firms which produce clothing and accessories specifically for such events. The same can be said for venue operators and those who work as professional organisers of such events, particularly residential type ones for groups whether in the UK or abroad.
stevedm  
#15 Posted : 07 August 2013 12:05:50(UTC)
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stevedm

Alcohol is a neurotoxin...which effects judgement...hence the caution note about tattoos...it also effects behaviour, hence the attacks..that is dependant on personality...when I have a skin full I laugh as that is my base nature...brought up on Billy Connolly! Others want to fight everything...we can see parallels in safety...those who take risks and those who don't.. all about human factors....
Invictus  
#16 Posted : 07 August 2013 12:31:23(UTC)
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Invictus

What could happen is you can let people go out and enjoy themselves and if this is drinking to much, eating to much, being sick etc. then leave them to it. I appreciate that people woork in such venues tat this happens but like every thing some one has to and if they didn't like then they should get out.
Ron Hunter  
#17 Posted : 07 August 2013 12:47:13(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Invictus wrote:
What could happen is you can let people go out and enjoy themselves and if this is drinking to much, eating to much, being sick etc. then leave them to it. I appreciate that people woork in such venues tat this happens but like every thing some one has to and if they didn't like then they should get out.
...and I suppose we should let them drive home too? Alcohol abuse is a BIG problem in this Country.
MEden380  
#18 Posted : 07 August 2013 13:46:22(UTC)
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MEden380

A quick update on last Saturday evening's outing Every one had a good drink and enjoyed a good curry Some were picked up by spouses, some went home on the train and some caught a bus Groom lost his two future brother-in-laws until the early hours- they got lost in high street of a small sea side town and had to phone home to get address of where they were staying - not appreciated by their better half's. No one suffered from alcohol poisoning or food poisoning Every body is still speaking to each other and looking forward to the Wedding on Friday (more drinking and eating)
Melrose80086  
#19 Posted : 07 August 2013 13:53:32(UTC)
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Melrose80086

Pretty tame then when you hear some of the horror stories... OH went white water rafting for his stag do and still remember one of his friends during the best man speech saying "I nearly died!"...not from falling out of the raft or alcohol intake but trying to get him out of the wetsuit afterwards as he's a BIG guy and took 4 of them to haul him out! (and yes, the photos were horrific!)
Nicola Kemmery  
#20 Posted : 12 August 2013 19:33:13(UTC)
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Nicola Kemmery

Glad to hear all went well - I said the mobile phone would come in handy!!
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