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cheifinspector  
#1 Posted : 09 August 2013 08:41:18(UTC)
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cheifinspector

We recently had a torque wrech fail when one of our personnel was tightening a bolt on a large piece of equipment. He wasn't hurt while carrying this out but the client has asked what kind of inspection and maintenance regime we have in place for all of our handheld tools. As it stands, we currently carry out visual inspections on handtools about once a year but this is not documented. The client giving us some heat due to this and are insisting that we have all our inspections documented to show evidence that it has been done. That is fair enough but the problem is that we have thousands of handtools (everything from screwdrivers to angle grinders) and to document everything is a huge task in itself. My question is, what level of recording is required for handtools such as screwdrivers, spanners hammers etc? Is a simple tick box saying pass or fail acceptable?
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 09 August 2013 09:36:35(UTC)
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bob youel

Its all down to what a specific client wants as in 'clean nic' in nuclear situations we new were all our hand tools were at all times and in other industries we did not even know where kit worth many thousands of £ was at, at any particular time so its horses for courses I am afraid. However some control is always needed so get a system going and a representative list may help in the future but as for this case do what you have to do for this client after you have argued your case NB: one [1] dropped spanner in a cooling water pond at sellafield cost a company many many many thousands of pounds and if a dropped spanner hits somebody you could be in trouble
Jake  
#3 Posted : 09 August 2013 10:09:28(UTC)
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Jake

Can the "inspection" of hand held tools be documented within your current processes? Do your operatives complete pre-task risk assessment form of any kind? If so, you could add a tick box that asks the operative to confirm all tools to be used have been visually assessed as good condition / acceptable for use etc? I would suggest a register of the many thousand hand held tools you have is swaying a little way away from reasonably practicable.
JJ Prendergast  
#4 Posted : 09 August 2013 10:21:04(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

Torque wrenches etc - annual calibration checks Hammers, spanners/screwdrivers, mole grips etc - no formal recording of checks, self reporting by tradesmen for faults defects. Personal integrity!! Industry - safety critical aircraft maintenance/engineering
JJ Prendergast  
#5 Posted : 09 August 2013 10:56:56(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

Forgot to say, in my previous post 'My question is, what level of recording is required for handtools such as screwdrivers, spanners hammers etc? Is a simple tick box saying pass or fail acceptable?' If you did this, you would have to individually identify each tool - otherwise how would you know if somebody had simply swaped a broken tool for a new one? You should have tool checks at the end of a job i.e. 8 spanners and 2 screw drivers taken to the job, 8 spanners and 2 screw drivers return from the job. i.e. nothing left inside the machine/aircraft etc that could cause an obstruction to control runs etc. A central tool stores could be used - with individual tags/ numbers assigned to individual engineers and to the work location/aircraft tail number - to track where tools are used. But this is more about control of tools from getting lost, rather than controlling defects to a particular tool. OTT to RECORD individual tool checks for serviceability, in my view.
Ron Hunter  
#6 Posted : 09 August 2013 11:04:56(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Appreciate you're under pressure from your client, but would the mode of failure have been picked up by a formal visual in this instance?
cheifinspector  
#7 Posted : 09 August 2013 11:14:53(UTC)
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cheifinspector

We do record in risk assessments that tools must be visually checked prior to use but. The problem with the torque wrench is that it is not used very often and potentially could have deteriorated but with no obvious signs. After the failure the internals of the wrench were not great visually. Slightly rusty and never been lubricated. Unfortunately the client are very demanding but when we asked them how they document their inspections on similar types of equipment, it turns out that they don't do it at all!!! Visual checks only. It certainly wouldn't be practicable to do as they suggest and i agree with the other post that this is OTT. Looks like i'll have to have it out with them and hopefully come to a satisfactory conclusion.
walker  
#8 Posted : 09 August 2013 11:29:10(UTC)
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walker

Was the Clients concern a PUWER thing (we rely on untercorded pre user checks) Or a Quality thing - having something like a torque wrench fail is bound to set alarm bells ringing
walker  
#9 Posted : 09 August 2013 11:30:19(UTC)
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walker

walker wrote:
Was the Clients concern a PUWER thing (we rely on untercorded pre user checks) Or a Quality thing - having something like a torque wrench fail is bound to set alarm bells ringing
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