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Asher  
#1 Posted : 16 August 2013 15:58:43(UTC)
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Asher

Dear All, I cannot find any definitive legislation on this and am in need of some advice please. Is it a legal requirement to wear hard hats whilst operating and working (in the basket) from a MEWP such as a cherry picker? As I understand it, hard hats take the hit of an object falling on your head and as such are designed to break apart when something hits it with enough force. it breaks instead of your head. Any clarification gratefully accepted.
stephie  
#2 Posted : 16 August 2013 16:22:22(UTC)
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stephie

I thought that hard hats were mainly for where there was a risk of bumping your head something rather than thing falling on your head?
achrn  
#3 Posted : 16 August 2013 16:47:51(UTC)
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achrn

Hard hats don't break apart, but they are irreparably damaged by a hard impact. The legality in a MEWP is the same as anywhere else - if there's a risk of head injury other than due to falling over you need to wear one. (Although soon (or is it already) the specific head protection requirement has been absorbed into general PPE requirements). Stephie is wrong - that's bump caps.
Chris L  
#4 Posted : 16 August 2013 17:03:31(UTC)
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Chris L

There will be no definitive legislation on this other than the Management Regs and the requirement to risk assess the work activity. If the risk assessment for the work activity deems it necessary to wear hard hats (or any type of PPE for that matter) you are then required and must then wear the specified PPE as it has been deemed necessary by the risk assessment. Obviously the type of work will dictate the necessary PPE that has to be worn and consideration should be given to whether certain PPE is required or not and does introducing a particular piece of PPE introduce other risks. There is a balance to be had with regards to wearing PPE that is necessary (as highlighted by the risk assessment) for the work being carried out and just wearing PPE for the sake of it (where the risk is low or minimal). Difficult to answer without further information, but the risk assessment should answer your question as to whether it is needed or not rather than is it a legal requirement.
Steve W1  
#5 Posted : 16 August 2013 17:29:58(UTC)
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Steve W1

You should have in place a risk assessment and safety procedure for the use of a MEWP etc. in your workplace even before you use it. You can make it a company policy to wear hard hats if you feel the level of risk identifies this as a requirement.
Chris Cahill  
#6 Posted : 16 August 2013 20:29:23(UTC)
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Chris Cahill

HSE CIS 58 "A hard hat with chinstrap and cold/wet weather high visibility clothing should also be worn." Not Legislation but good guidance. IPAF courses teach Hard hat with suitable chinstrap should be worn. (Best practice)
Asher  
#7 Posted : 19 August 2013 09:22:34(UTC)
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Asher

Thank you very much for the input everyone, gratefully recieved as ever.
Kate  
#8 Posted : 19 August 2013 15:03:51(UTC)
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Kate

I think in this case Stephie is right - hard hats do protect against bumps as well as against falling objects, and being in a MEWP makes you more likely to encounter bumps, but not usually more likely to have things fall on you.
Stern  
#9 Posted : 19 August 2013 15:43:01(UTC)
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Stern

If you're in a position where bumps to the head are an issue then standard hard hats are no use. I've personally on more than one occasion suffered (albeit minor) neck compression injuries when bumping my head in a hard hat. Incidents which, ironically, would not have happened if i wasn't wearing a hardhat as you end up forgetting that your head is 4 or 5 inches taller than normal when ducking under things! On a similar note, if you're up in a MEWP and needing to access a tight space (ceiling grids being a typical situation for us) then hardhats are again of little use as they severely restrict access and often have to be removed. In a nutshell.... Hardhats = on the ground, general use, risk of falling objects Bumpcaps = tight spaces, risk of bumps, no/minimal risk of falling objects Hope this helps
Kate  
#10 Posted : 19 August 2013 17:50:26(UTC)
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Kate

I disagree that hard hats are "no use" against bumps - I've bumped my head in a hard hat and been very glad I was wearing it.
Stern  
#11 Posted : 19 August 2013 22:32:52(UTC)
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Stern

Sorry, maybe I didn't explain myself very well. The situations we often find ourselves in involve working in some tight spaces. Situations where the risk of being hit by a falling object is all but non existent where as the chance of sustaining a serious bump/cut injury to the head is comparatively high. Prescribing standard issue hardhats in these situations would be a pointless control measure as the hardhat would have to be removed to allow access. This is the sort of situation I was referring to when I called hardhats pointless in head bump situations. That said, I still believe that the use of standard plastic hardhats in situations where there is no risk of falling objects but where there IS a bump risk is a lazy control measure which unfortunately seems to be too common. Many PCs and clients I've worked for have recoiled in horror when I've suggested we use bump caps rather than hardhats! Even when I've explained the reasons many will still not allow it. Having been personally injured twice from having to wear a hardhat and seeing various other injuries over the years, one of which resulted in the IP being concussed and hospitalised, I'm always very careful to ensure we use the right tools (well, PPE!) for the job.
achrn  
#12 Posted : 20 August 2013 08:41:13(UTC)
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achrn

Kate wrote:
I think in this case Stephie is right - hard hats do protect against bumps as well as against falling objects, and being in a MEWP makes you more likely to encounter bumps, but not usually more likely to have things fall on you.
That's not what Stephie said, though. Stephie said "hard hats were mainly for where there was a risk of bumping your head something rather than thing falling on your head". That statement is wrong. Hard ghats are nopt mainly for where there is a risk of bumping your head on something. Hard hats are mainly for where there is a risk of something falling on your head.
Kate  
#13 Posted : 20 August 2013 13:52:07(UTC)
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Kate

I'm happy to say I agree with both the last two posts :-)
RayRapp  
#14 Posted : 20 August 2013 14:10:32(UTC)
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RayRapp

Joing the party a bit late...but in my opinion hard hats for working at height (ie MEWPS, ladders, etc) should be of a specific type like those used by scaffolders. They are peakless (for better forward/upward vision) with a chin strap (so they don't fall off) and provide extra protection for the cranium. Such hard hats are designed for side impacts and objects being dropped from above.
Kim Hedges  
#15 Posted : 21 August 2013 15:27:44(UTC)
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Kim Hedges

I am amongst other things a MEWP operator for 3a and 3b (boom and scissor), best practice dictates Helmet, Hi Viz Vest, Harness. The helmet is not just for stuff falling on your head! It is more visible than your skin or hair, so the banksman working below can see that you are upright at the very least. Should you keel over in your basket, people below can see you better. A helmet is also useful for attaching other things to it, like ear defenders and a visor.
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