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Without wishing to detract from Ric's post below re CSCS cards where I note the frustration over this subject, I have been tasked to look at some of our staff (estate agency) who visit building sites. This has obviously led me to looking at yellow cards. All I can find is that they need to complete the operative theory test but does not give any guidance as to what training is required to answer all the questions correctly.
We do have in house training (albeit online) which covers most H&S subjects that is needed in an office environment (fire, MH, COSHH etc) and also including subjects like lone working where they may visit home, new homes, building sites etc. Do you guys think this is enough? If not, what would be the minimum we should be looking at to train them bearing in mind most of them will only have a basic understaning of H&S and most will have no experience of building sites and contruction. Do we really need to train all our staff to 'Site Operative' standard?
I'd also be intrested to hear any comments from anyone who manages constution projects on their opinions on yellow cards in general. Is this something that more and more developers are insisting on? Is ist likely to become (or already is mandatory)?
Thanks for any opinions you can give.
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Are you asking for material to get them though the H&S touch screen test?
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A Site Visitor Card should suffice. Valid for 5 years; will need to pass the touch screen test though. There are official test/answer books available on E Bay or from booksellers.
Jon
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Yes walker, this is to pass the touch screen test. Just needed to know what we need to prepare them for the test. John, I'll have a look at the books.
Thanks.
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May I suggest that your candidates do read the question/answer books. There are hundreds of possible questions in the "bank"; of which 50 are selected for the test. Forty five minutes are allowed for the test. However, there were a number of monkey questions in the MAP test I recently completed- had I not read the question/answer book in advance I may not have succeeded in attaining the 90% correct requirement.
I had one question wrong - the horse on the bend (of the highway).
Hope this helps.
Jon
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John, sounds spot on. All I need to advise that if the Developer requires a visitor card, the staff to purchase, read the book and pass the theory test. This will be in addition to the in house training that they have already had. Do you (or anyone else) agree?
Thanks
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They must concentrate on the test materials - I cannot over emphasise this. There can be up to four possible answers to each question - only one of which is correct. So, there is huge potential to get the answers wrong!
Good luck
Jon
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Others have already covered the issue of what you need to pass teh test - you need teh book. You can get teh content of teh book as a computer CD but it is just effectively a powerpoint with one question from teh book per slide. The books are better, possibly unles steh CD ties in especially tidily with your existing online training - but you'd need to look into teh licensing etc. of teh electronic version.
There are also a coupel of videos to watch which I don't think anyone has mentioned. is a training video and is one explaining how the test works.
ivorheadache wrote:
I'd also be intrested to hear any comments from anyone who manages constution projects on their opinions on yellow cards in general. Is this something that more and more developers are insisting on? Is ist likely to become (or already is mandatory)?
It's theoretically mandatory for quite a lot of main contractors already, though the people on the ground mostly don't seem to know that (or are sceptical about its value and don't enforce it). We take the approach that it's a relatively low hurdle and if you have the card then it avoids one more potential headache when trying to access site.
To be honest, it's probably more relevant to someone that's not a construction industry worker. That is, if someone works on a site day-in day-out they probably have a vague general awareness (caveated of course by all the familiarity breeds contempt / laziness issues), but for someone that doesn't go onto a construction site regularly, it's probably a useful demonstration of at least an awareness of site safety issues. If I were managing a site and someone I know works on sites every day turns up, I wouldn't much care whether they had a CSCS card (at least wrt teh safety test) - I wouldn't consider it tells me anything useful. If someone that isn't regularly on a construction site turned up, the fact they had a CSCS test would provide more comfort. Though they'd still need watching like a hawk, I'd be less inclined to refuse them access - more inclined to let them on site if only because the fact that their employer has engaged with some aspect of construction site safety process is reassuring.
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