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Hi everyone,
quick question if possible;
we're currently implementing a new policy making safety glasses mandatory. We will be paying for eye tests and prescription glasses for those who need them, through a voucher system with a high street optician.
Some of our people are saying we have to let them go in works time, which I dont think is correct. In my opinion, if they need glasses (normal glasses) to do thier work, then this would be done in their own time, why is it any different just because they are safety glasses.
opinions welcome
thanks
steve
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Steve
So what will you do if people refuse to go to your supplier in their own time, at their own expense?
Why not arrange for your supplier to come to you
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If you really wanted to dig your heels in just provide overspecs instead to those who won't go out of hours. Mean spirited yes, but a solution nonetheless.
I had the same comments (only from a couple of guys) when I went down this route last year, I agreed to them leaving 30mins or so early to go to a pre-arranged test, it wasn't worth the hassle for me to be honest.
Alan
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Hi MEden,
it is an important point, my thoughts are though that we provide non-prescription glasses, over-specs, goggles and visors of which they can wear any. If they want the 'benefit' of wearing prescription safety glasses then we'll pay but they've got to go in thier own time.
Our provider, 'Specsavers' dont do visits as far as I can see.
Alan, I normally am the guy who gives people whatever they want, sorts things out etc I think this has riled me a bit, I've been here 10 months and before I started HSE was non-existant, and I've battled through with the directors to get things through - prescription glasses being one of them. After all this, there are one or two individuals who are awkward about everything which really annoys me, especially as these are really well paid people, who have a really easy life to be honest - so my feeling is just take 30 mins out of your weekend and comply. So I think I am going to dig my heels in on this one.
Just had one of the individuals say he is going to report us (me) to the HSE if I dont let them go in works time!
Cheers for the comments
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Hi Steve
We also went down this route this year. Couple of points of note. You are already paying for their eye test, this is not required as people who need prescription safety glasses should have a prescription already which all they need to do is bring to the supplier of the prescription safety glasses. We did not allow anyone additional time off and this was accepted as they all realised it was being done in the interest of their safety. Good luck to the guy when he talks to the HSE, he may well be surprised by the answer they give him.
Overall, the change went well although we did have a few issues with the opticians and getting glasses to fit properly for a couple of people.
All I can say is keep up the good work.
Gerry
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Steve
I was just asking what you would do.
As far as the provision of PPE goes.
Firstly I am making the assumption the reason for safety spectacles is not for DSE use.
If this is the case you are under no obligation to pay for an eye test.
What you need is a current prescription from those who wear spectacles.
You then give this to your supplier to manufacture and issue to your staff.
Bear in mind these are still your property should the staff member leave.
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Steve, if it helps, I have been down the ‘domiciliary’ (having it done in house) route and I found this to be far more time consuming than using the voucher service, which I have found provides a good service. We don’t give time off for this or ‘VDU’ eye tests either and have never had any problems with staff ‘quibbling’ over this.
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Hi, thanks for all the replies.
I think I'm more happy in my decision now - at least no-ones come on here saying you must allow them paid time so I think I've done the right thing.
In fact, as others have said, more than the right thing in that there was no obligation to pay for an eye test, if they need one for general life then they should already have one, my thinking was we offer a little carrot to smooth things over - perhaps a little naive on my part.
In fairness, as always, with a workshop of 45 there are probably two people being awkward, unfortunatly they tend to be quite vocal.
MEden380, you raised the question of what we will do if people refuse to wear them. If people forget, then it'l be reminders - no problem there. If people persistently 'forget', refuse etc then unfortunatly we'll have to go down the disciplinary route, trouble here is I have one director who would back that all the way, another who I suspect would rather turn a blind eye (pun intended).
thanks everyone, super forum.
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