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STEVELEWIS1966  
#1 Posted : 11 September 2013 15:31:26(UTC)
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STEVELEWIS1966

I am a highly experienced Work @ Height trainer wishing to improve my employ-ability in Mainstream H&S Training.

I have recently joined IOSH and am told my experience to date will be accredited with TECH status.

I have to my name a B.Ed Hons degree which opened the door to teaching Adults Health and Safety 13 years ago.

In recent times I have gained the Nebosh Construction Certificate, however this seems to be just the first stepping stone

Now I am asking with great respect.

What is the forums advice, what skills, knowledge and experience could I pursue to gaining a full time teaching position in Health and Safety.
pseudonym  
#2 Posted : 11 September 2013 16:02:23(UTC)
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pseudonym

Well, that would depend on the sort of environment that you want to teach in - and I'm not being sarcastic or flippant.

What is it that you want to teach? H&S is a very broad church indeed and taught courses / training can be anything from a few hours to a few years: tool box talk to postgraduate.

My "suggestion" would be to precisely identify where you want to be in two, three, five years time and then plan accordingly. Level 5/6 qualifications (and / or CMIOSH) might be something to aim for?

Full time teaching apprentices H&S would be completely different to teaching H&S to potential EHOs or similar.

Also think long and hard about this as there are an awful lot of H&S people out there who can / do teach and also many who think they can teach - there is a lot of competition

Phillip Clarke  
#3 Posted : 11 September 2013 18:54:42(UTC)
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Phillip Clarke

As pseudonym says, first identify what sort of organisation you wish to teach in.

Contact NEBOSH as a starter and ask what qualifications they expect of trainers to deliver NGC and Diploma.

For university teaching I would suggest a post graduate qualification - as you already have a degree I suspect most unis would offer you a place on their H&S related MSc for example.
STEVELEWIS1966  
#4 Posted : 12 September 2013 18:59:02(UTC)
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STEVELEWIS1966

pseudonym wrote:
Well, that would depend on the sort of environment that you want to teach in - and I'm not being sarcastic or flippant.

What is it that you want to teach? H&S is a very broad church indeed and taught courses / training can be anything from a few hours to a few years: tool box talk to postgraduate.

My "suggestion" would be to precisely identify where you want to be in two, three, five years time and then plan accordingly. Level 5/6 qualifications (and / or CMIOSH) might be something to aim for?

Full time teaching apprentices H&S would be completely different to teaching H&S to potential EHOs or similar.

Also think long and hard about this as there are an awful lot of H&S people out there who can / do teach and also many who think they can teach - there is a lot of competition


I am a practical man who likes helping the advancement of a mans career who has paid good money. At this time I am looking at introducing myself to companies that provide confined space training, forklift, manual handling etc.. Very much towards tool box talk whether in the classroom or onsite.

Also I say this with no smugness as far as my teaching ability. Two situations come to mind

I trained successfully a military sniper for a career in the civilian Rigging Communications Industry, he had said upon my meeting him, of his lack of belief at learning a new complex trade in civvie street .. that would be legal !!!. He passed with flying colours.

A self proclaimed illiterate man attended my Forklift training in Australia. Carefully, I worked out how to teach him. When tested he passed, saying to the examiner "It was because of the pommie instructor talking to him till it went in"

I am a talented teacher, I just happen to like teaching adults how to be safe at a grass roots level
Sailor JT  
#5 Posted : 19 September 2013 17:17:08(UTC)
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Sailor JT

One route you can explore is the C&G 7303 preparing to teach in the life long learning sector and gain experience in the work environment at the same time
Mick Noonan  
#6 Posted : 19 September 2013 17:38:24(UTC)
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Mick Noonan

You already have the qualifications for teaching, so you don't need anything else there. You have experience of teaching as outlined in your OP. All you need is to figure out where you want to work (as pointed out in #2).

A full time teaching post in H&S won't be easy without hands on experience and a stronger qualification. On the other hand it may be possible for you to join one of the many companies that specialise in training programmes. I would guess that they have a bank of trainers that they schedule around their many courses. They would also need trainers/teachers to deliver same.

Michael

STEVELEWIS1966  
#7 Posted : 19 September 2013 19:53:56(UTC)
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STEVELEWIS1966

Mick Noonan wrote:
You already have the qualifications for teaching, so you don't need anything else there. You have experience of teaching as outlined in your OP. All you need is to figure out where you want to work (as pointed out in #2).

A full time teaching post in H&S won't be easy without hands on experience and a stronger qualification. On the other hand it may be possible for you to join one of the many companies that specialise in training programmes. I would guess that they have a bank of trainers that they schedule around their many courses. They would also need trainers/teachers to deliver same.

Michael

Agreed michael, I have a secondary school teaching degree but am concerned that so much emphasis is put on possessing a PTTLLS for teaching adults. I have noticed this whilst doing what you suggest, namely joining a bank of trainers. What do you recommend for a stronger qualification ?

Thanks Steve
mistyhall  
#8 Posted : 20 September 2013 10:03:23(UTC)
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mistyhall

Hi Steve,
I started out as a trainer. I did my City and Guilds 7307 as then it was dirt cheap due to everyone in education having to have a certified qualification. I then ( well at the same time) did my NGC.
I then registered with CIEH to becomme a training centre and started putting on courses which then progressed into contracting for large Companies doing their own courses. I then did work in the construction industry which led to SSIP accreditation work ( i also started my NEBOSH Diploma ).From then on i went into manufacturing ( my background was in food manufacturing) and into Logistics working as a contractor which is where i am today.Funnily enough i hardly train at all now just tool box talks really. Rule of thumb if you want to train Health and Safety you need experience in the sector and normally a higher qualification than the one you are teaching.
Good Luck
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