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Mark1969  
#1 Posted : 12 September 2013 11:03:21(UTC)
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Mark1969

Hello, there is a project in my factory to move part of the operation into what was a redundant area. There are some exisiting services within the redundant area, however we have engaged with 6 contractors to provide various parts of the overall project. We are extending some offices, creating an acoustic enclosure, installing some Pipework that will carry gases from a process in the area to holding tanks outside. We are also putting up some half height partitions. There are several mini projects rolled into one in essence. We started by laying a resin floor, we have also decided to install a ceiling. There is no demolition work, as the area is currently empty. Its a large open factory space floor to ceiling with no mezzanine or offices above. As mentioned previous, no demolition, working at height will be internally from scaffold towers and cherry pickers, for me this is higest risk we face, this will be for a few days out of the whole project. We have now had all our quotes back, and have decided who we are going with, all but one of the contractors we have worked with before. Usual control of contractors is in place, RA/MS obtained, we already have their isurance details etc. We have a permit to work system and all contractors sign in and out daily via reception. The preliminary work has begun, we now have an estimate that this work will take approximately 3 months to complete in all. Question is, is this notifiable due to the timescales the whole project will take? We have not used a designer as we have dertermined how the layout will be internally. All advice gratefully recieved.
PIKEMAN  
#2 Posted : 12 September 2013 11:22:47(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

The regs say "30 days or 500 person days". So - notifiable. IMHO.
paulw71  
#3 Posted : 12 September 2013 11:26:03(UTC)
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paulw71

Hi Mark Yes your project is notifiable. Also as you say your organisation has decided how the layout will be ( and I would imagine specified materials etc) I would consider you to be a designer under the definition of the regs. You will need to appoint a Principal Contractor and a CDMC (or fulfil the roles internally if you are competent to do so).
Mark1969  
#4 Posted : 12 September 2013 11:44:54(UTC)
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Mark1969

paulw71 / pikeman - Yes I thought it would be. With regards to PC and CDMC - any particular (due to the low risk of the works listed) competency requirement guidance. My thoughts are between the production exec, site services manager and myself we would be able to fulfil the requirements of these roles.
sgd20000  
#5 Posted : 12 September 2013 12:04:42(UTC)
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sgd20000

Speak to one of your contractors, I am sure one of them will be competent to conduct the PC and CDMC Role at this late stage in the project. Competency requirements are outlined in the associated ACOP document, but generally require having the Knowledge and experince of conduting the role previously. If you need any assistance please PM me.
redken  
#6 Posted : 12 September 2013 12:36:43(UTC)
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redken

sgd20000 wrote:
Speak to one of your contractors, I am sure .
Who will I supsect try to rip you off, do it yourself you have designed it and I assume you have previous experience of contractors working on your site.
SP900308  
#7 Posted : 12 September 2013 12:42:16(UTC)
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SP900308

.......Another great example of CDM in action!
Mark1969  
#8 Posted : 20 September 2013 12:15:35(UTC)
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Mark1969

Thanks again all, notification F10 sent last week, work progressing nicely, no issues as yet, all roles Designer, CDMC(me) and PC taken up by internal persons. Will update if we hit any issues.
achrn  
#9 Posted : 20 September 2013 12:25:42(UTC)
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achrn

Mark1969 wrote:
Thanks again all, notification F10 sent last week, work progressing nicely, no issues as yet, all roles Designer, CDMC(me) and PC taken up by internal persons.
Note that CDM-C doesn't need to be a person. I would expect the CDMC and PC to be the organisation, not you and another person. 'Designer' isn't really a designated role - anyone who decides any part of the design is a designer and attracts the relevant duties whether they are designated or not.
Mark1969  
#10 Posted : 20 September 2013 12:31:24(UTC)
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Mark1969

Yes, very true achrn, in this case the Client, Designer, CDMc and PC are all in truth the organisation. Its just a shame we have no experience in putting up walls, floors, ceilings lighting or fire detection, if we had we could have done the whole thing in house.
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