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jarsmith83  
#1 Posted : 19 September 2013 09:35:07(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Hi all Before I go ahead with this post I am fully aware of copy right infringement.......just to get that out there...Phew! What I am asking, and am actually unsure about, is, is the the ACoPs for PASMA free to download and does anyone have a copy to spare. I ask this as I a have tried to download from the PASMA website but it does not seem to have this facility but, using the iPhone App, I seem to be able to 'own' a copy for free? Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. My email: jarsmith@ymail.com In addition, if anyone has any industry guidance regarding the tying on of mobile towers, that would also be greatly received. So far all I can see is HSE guidnance which states: "Remember, the stability of any tower is easily affected. Unless the tower has been specifically designed for such use, activities such as those listed below should never be carried out: ● sheeting or exposure to strong winds; ● loading with heavy equipment; and ● using the tower to hoist materials or support" Thank you all in advance for any input; James
jarsmith83  
#2 Posted : 19 September 2013 10:03:04(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Just to update the forum on this. I am particularly interested in the tying in of the tower and the PASMA guidance note. It seems that PASMA did have a guidance note on this process but have temporarily withdrawn this guidance for updating. On request I was told "we cannot even email you a copy of the old guidance". So, if anyone has a copy of the old guidance on tying in it would be greatly appreciated if you could send this my way. All the best James
frankc  
#3 Posted : 19 September 2013 22:33:38(UTC)
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frankc

jarsmith83 wrote:
In addition, if anyone has any industry guidance regarding the tying on of mobile towers, that would also be greatly received. James
PASMA state you should tie a tower in wherever possible. Your correct about the HSE guidance but as for PASMA, they state a tower should be tied in when it exceeds the free standing height specified by the manufacturer and when the windspeed is in excess of 17mph. This is from Youngman Boss Ladderspan:- Ties should be used when the tower goes beyond its safe height, beyond the limits of the stabilisers/outriggers, or if there is a danger of instability. They should be rigid, two way ties fastened to both uprights of the frame with load-bearing right angled or swivel couplers. Only couplers suitable for the 50.8mm diameter tube of the tower should be used. Ideally, ties should be secured to both faces of a solid structure by means of anchorages. The tie frequency may vary depending on the application, but they should, at a minimum, be every 4 metres height. I'll e-mail you about some more info.
Frank Hallett  
#4 Posted : 25 September 2013 12:35:36(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

I wasn't aware that any organisation other than the HSE could write, or enforce, an ACoP - have I missed one of those sneaky little amendments from the "Enterprise & Regulatory Reform Act" or one of the others that were slid through about the same time? Frank Hallett
rodgerker  
#5 Posted : 25 September 2013 12:48:28(UTC)
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rodgerker

Frank is quite right. An ACop is only issued by the HSE and has a specific legal standing. However, anyone can produce a "Code of Practice" (COP) for anything. (A lot of people inadvertently confuse the two). Often a COP is produced with the intention of confusing in the hope that the unwary will believe that what they have produced is "statutory". Rodger Ker
achrn  
#6 Posted : 25 September 2013 14:39:00(UTC)
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achrn

rodgerker wrote:
An ACop is only issued by the HSE and has a specific legal standing.
I think you're being overly restrictive. I agree ACOPs have specific legal standing, but I disagree that they can only be issued by HSE. The Highway Code is an ACOP issued by the DSA, for example. An ACOP is just a COP that has been approved by a statutory body following a formal consultation. While most are HSE, I don't think they necessarily required to be.
Frank Hallett  
#7 Posted : 25 September 2013 17:18:26(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

you're quite right rogerker - but I was only considering the very restricted field that related to the question posed. The earlier comment re production and status of COPs is also very relevant - but there we must distinguish between formal, approved by enforcer COPs and those that are no different to BS 7671 [IEE Regs to most people]. As we're now going way off-topic I'm going for a lay-down! Frank Hallett
frankc  
#8 Posted : 25 September 2013 17:23:48(UTC)
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frankc

The booklet PASMA produce and give out on their courses is the OPERATOR'S CODE OF PRACTICE. Not an ACOP It can be found here. http://www.pasma.co.uk/m...sma-code-of-practice.jpg
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