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Following on from the guardian newspaper report on worker deaths in Qatar, Has anyone worked on a construction site in Qatar and has an opinion on whether the article was a fair depiction of working conditions. It seems that the main problem is with the smaller sites (bit like the UK) and not the larger ones. Are they as bad as the paper makes out?
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Not "worked" on construction sites in Qatar - specifically, but I have seen with my own eyes seriously deficient practices, and I have worked in related engineering/process sectors across 6 middle east countries. Many 3rd world expats (Nepalise, bangladeshi's etc...) are effectively indentured slaves enduring on-site life-threatening working conditions, as reported by the guardian; and substantiated by statistics. If this is not bad enough they then have to experience horrifying welfare conditions off site; hot-bedding poor sanitation etc...
There is little doubt in my mind that even if the reports have not been 100% factual with regard to the specific instances cited, they do at least convey an accurate general picture of affairs out here. Im grateful to the guardian for raising this and for other media then picking up the baton....
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Maybe the Guardian and others ought to keep their noses out of other people's affairs and look a bit closer to home.
Glasshouses & stone throwing
Despite our laws and moralising there are many instances of slavery (and near that) in dear old Britain.
And now the government want to weaken the gangmasters laws too.
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Disagree that an international body's chat forum should not think about world issues.
Fully agree there's plenty of room for improvement as even recognised by Teresa May. See http://www.conservativeh...ern-day-slave-trade.html
and she referenced this in her speech to the Tory Conference (the day before yesterday I think)
which speech covered in the Guardian.
The Qatari Government seems to accept that things need to be done and have announced more resources to be allocated to inspections etc.
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I had just prepared this as a new post but will add it here.
http://www.iosh.co.uk/br...ealth_and_wellbeing.aspx
19.05: Mohammed Al Humaidi, Qatar Vice chair “Health and Safety as a profession” & “The new Qatar welfare and Workers rights initiatives”
19.30: Gerard Hand , IOSH President “ "The value of IOSH” (15 mins) and “the IOSH code of Conduct” (15 mins)
http://www.theguardian.c...alese-die-building-sites
“”Seventy Nepalese builders working in Qatar in the runup to the 2022 football World Cup have died on construction sites since the start of 2012.
Fifteen have died this year, according to a death toll announced by Nepal government representatives in Doha. It is the clearest official data yet on the dangers facing 1.2 million migrant workers in the Gulf kingdom during the $100bn (£62bn)construction drive before the World Cup and came as David Cameron called on Qatar's leadership to take action. He said zero deaths on the London 2012 Olypmics project showed Doha "it can be done".””
I wonder if our IOSH President will discuss the subject with his hosts.?
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Dear All
The article at SHPOnline has David Cameron commending the British Olympic construction site as one of the safest and how we can use this as an example to the world. (Paraphrased)
At the bottom of the SHP Online article was the section listing the top 5 most viewed articles: the most read article is the one entitled 'Prime minister vows to “kill off the health and safety culture for good”'. Is this a contradiction or a paradox?
Today Mr Cameron said he wants Great Britain to be the land of opportunity, while, apparently, missing the opportunity to promote the health and safety success of those involved with the Olympics to the authorities in Qatar.
Nigel
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I was at the IOSH meeting last night. Gerard gave an excellent talk and he was asked about his meeting with his hosts. He assured the meeting that this issue was discussed and he offered IOSH's help and support to the Qatari authorities. I hope that they take him up on his offer.
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I am in Qatar and work for a very large Construction company, I have been here 3 years now, and it is a circus, it is just as bad or even worse than the article, I have really never come across so many incompetent people in my life, its all about the money, and production, they don't care about the labour workers at all.
We don't have proper welfare facilities and workers bring food to site in plastic bags and eat on the floor of the site, and its not clean on site too, they don't bother about housekeeping practices so the workers will eat and sleep on the construction site wherever they can, and they are treated like slaves sometimes physically handled too. I wish I could show you some pics it will shock allot of people.
Some companies do a good job in implementing HSE standards but the majority don't even bother, a lot of workers die here and it is kept under raps. you wont easily read about it in the media as they have a tight grip on it.
Generally the oil and gas sector is good but the construction companies in Doha city is really BAD!!
Also it depends on what nationality the management is, western guys usually fair better, but the middle eastern management is [expletive deleted] poor.
I also have to say that here is some well established international construction companies that do a very good job in safety and there sites are well managed.
Worst place I've ever worked, money is good but that's about it, looking to get out very soon.
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I can definitely confirm what Cornelius has stated. prior to a sector change last year I worked in Oil and Gas and spent time in Qatar (Doha) and various other countries, the conditions on the construction sites out there are horrific - temps 50 degree plus, workers with no water little food and littler(?) pay. Life is cheap out there and I don't mean that in a melodramatic way.
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