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Ian A-H  
#1 Posted : 02 October 2013 09:05:23(UTC)
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Ian  A-H

We will have some maintenance work to do in water storage chambers and I want to decide whether this can be done by our in house team (tradesmen) or a contractor. This will become a regular occurrence – 3 or 4 times a year. The chambers are constructed from preformed concrete tubes and a concrete lid fitted with a manhole, they’re about 2 m deep. Obviously, our main concern is the confined space. The chamber holds spring water for a private water supply before it passes through a treatment system, but will obviously be drained for the work to take place. I’ve taken a look at the Water UK guidance note on the Classification and Management of Confined Space Entries and L101. I’d welcome your thoughts on air quality/sampling; PTW; and rescue plans and equipment. In particular, what are the real risks of oxygen deficiency and noxious gases? I’d like your opinions on how best to proceed before spending a lot of time and money on kit and training. I appreciate that it might be difficult to give a definitive answer given the scant information.
JJ Prendergast  
#2 Posted : 02 October 2013 09:26:00(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

The real risks of oxygen deficiency are that you could and will die, if the O2 levels are low enough. You seem to have identified the main issues. Made yourself aware of the main guidance. From the information given, it seems to be a cost benefit decision as much as anything else. Have you identified contractors capable of doing the work? Are they suitable competent/trained/experienced in the work? Train your own staff and they leave your company, then you have to start training/qualification again. Only you can decide what is the best way forward, once you consider the pros & cons of each approach - both pure h&s risks and the commercial costs etc.
Kate  
#3 Posted : 02 October 2013 15:59:06(UTC)
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Kate

Portable oxygen deficiency alarms are inexpensive.
bob youel  
#4 Posted : 03 October 2013 07:28:03(UTC)
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bob youel

Psychology etc. also plays a part as just because a person is a tradesman it does not mean that they have the expertise etc. to operate in all areas and people may be forced to operate outside their competence zone
Nicola Kemmery  
#5 Posted : 10 October 2013 14:08:46(UTC)
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Nicola Kemmery

You don't say what the maintenance work is that you are going to do in the space. Obviously you need to consider this as part of your risk assessment in case the work you are doing is introducing additional risks to those in the space itself.
jarsmith83  
#6 Posted : 11 October 2013 12:45:02(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Nicola Kemmery wrote:
You don't say what the maintenance work is that you are going to do in the space. Obviously you need to consider this as part of your risk assessment in case the work you are doing is introducing additional risks to those in the space itself.
Agree
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