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Graham  
#1 Posted : 15 October 2013 09:39:48(UTC)
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Graham

Hi I routinely advise office based staff working primarily with computers to vary the hand they use to manipulate their mouse. My view is that this spreads the load of mouse work between both hands. We have all the controls in place in terms of training, risk assessment, inspection to ensure compliance and record keeping. Recently I heard that someone had been told by a previous employer that varying the hand used to manipulate the mouse was not advised. Does anyone here have a view on why this advise might be given?
Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 15 October 2013 11:32:44(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Better to advise your people to avoid the mouse altogether and use the numerous keyboard shortcuts available. Some mice (often the more expensive ones) are deliberately "handed" and lack appropriate sculpting to enable a swap over. Using the 'wrong' hand for anything is never easy and may make correct intuitive posture more difficult to achieve.
Mick Noonan  
#3 Posted : 15 October 2013 11:36:05(UTC)
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Mick Noonan

Being right handed I've never considered using a left handed mouse. I think it would be the same for most. How many IT departments carry spare left handed units for such circumstances. You cannot just move the mouse to the other side of the keyboard. I would have though that using your other hand would increase the likelihood of RSI's. I would think that there is research on this somewhere. Instead I would suggest alternatives to the mouse, i.e. rollerball type. Mick
AndyMak  
#4 Posted : 15 October 2013 11:50:32(UTC)
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AndyMak

Usually ergonomic mice are handed, personally I would recommend changing to one of these, my personal preference is for the evoluent range, they put the hand in a more natural almost handshake position and ensure there is little twisting of joints. I have no connection with the company, but successfully used them to reduce WRULD symptoms on a number of occassions at a previous employer where mouse work was all day every day. Obviously tehre is a significant cost element as these are not cheap and left handed ones seem to be even more expensive, but in my opinion they work well.
stuie  
#5 Posted : 15 October 2013 12:32:05(UTC)
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stuie

For what it is worth most 'normal' 2 button meeces (pesky?) can be configured for either left or right hand use.
Graham  
#6 Posted : 15 October 2013 12:33:57(UTC)
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Graham

Thanks for these interesting responses. I too like the evoluent mouse and have found it very useful for people complaining about sore wrists. Other people use the ball mouse with great success. I use a 'standard' mouse and find changing hands very quick and easy. Well it did take a while to get used to using the left hand, but now it just feels normal to be ambidextrous with my mouse. (It also means other people don't like using my workstation.) My advice to use both hands is directed at people using a standard mouse, who are not suffering at all and get on perfectly well. It's just a way of reducing the likelihood of a problem occurring. I can't understand why this should be advised against, where's the harm in reducing the load on one side. Thanks again
IanDakin  
#7 Posted : 17 October 2013 14:03:52(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi Graham How about advising people to take their hand off the mouse when not using it! Most people tend to keep their hand on the mouse, in a static position, often with either ulna or radial deviation. However, computer/mouse use is very low risk. Ian
Graham Bullough  
#8 Posted : 17 October 2013 14:17:07(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

For the benefit of any other under-educated forum users like me, please can anyone advise if 'evoluent' is an adjective or a trade name with regard to computer mice? To avoid being advised to look on the internet I'd better add that I've done that but couldn't readily find the answer - which might simply reflect ineptitude by me when delving the internet!
Graham  
#9 Posted : 17 October 2013 14:21:34(UTC)
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Graham

Ian Taking the hand off the mouse sounds like a very good idea, I'll spread the word. The Evoluent mouse is a trade name for a vertical mouse that allows you to hold the hand in a more natural position. They seem to work quite well for some sore wrist sufferers. Graham
achrn  
#10 Posted : 17 October 2013 14:23:09(UTC)
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achrn

Regarding 'where's the harm', I'd say in people adopting contorted postures when using the mouse 'wrong'-handed, partly due to familiarity and comfort in the actual holding the mouse, and partly because of the need to lay out the desk differently to get the mouse over to the other side. It seems like advising people to swap the hand they use to write with to me. That would reduce load on one side. I expect it's easy enough when you've practised it enough too - but I wouldn't regard it as worth doing (except, perhaps, for a party trick).
Ron Hunter  
#11 Posted : 17 October 2013 14:24:34(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Graham Bullough wrote:
For the benefit of any other under-educated forum users like me, please can anyone advise if 'evoluent' is an adjective or a trade name with regard to computer mice? To avoid being advised to look on the internet I'd better add that I've done that but couldn't readily find the answer - which might simply reflect ineptitude by me when delving the internet!
I often pondered that. Evoluent I thought a French word. Which would mean I was using la souris!
martin1  
#12 Posted : 17 October 2013 14:41:26(UTC)
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martin1

Some of the staff here use penguins but frankly I think this is cruel.
AndyMak  
#13 Posted : 17 October 2013 16:38:23(UTC)
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AndyMak

martin1 wrote:
Some of the staff here use penguins but frankly I think this is cruel.
Yes we trialled some of those, the men quite liked them but there was some reluctance by some of the female members of staff, one told me in confidence it reminded her of something else! I blushed suitably and stepped away.... I will let the collective judge... http://www.posturite.co....aYssCZnroCFcLHtAodJkIAzw They come in small medium and large!
chris42  
#14 Posted : 17 October 2013 16:41:44(UTC)
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chris42

How much !!!!!!
AndyMak  
#15 Posted : 17 October 2013 16:47:45(UTC)
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AndyMak

chris42 wrote:
How much !!!!!!
Heh heh! Evoluents are around the £75 mark!
Graham Bullough  
#16 Posted : 17 October 2013 16:49:13(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Having looked at the website quoted by AndyMak I would contend that the 'penguins' bear little resemblance to penguins - they're surely more like dolphins - saw a whole school of real ones swimming and leaping south in the Sound of Sleat near Mallaig last Friday. 'Magic' as some folk might say!
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