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sl1msafety  
#1 Posted : 18 October 2013 11:44:55(UTC)
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sl1msafety

Please can anyone advise me on the correct definition of a Complex lift? We have a requirement to ensure that we plan, manage and supervise etc all our lifts. I believe that the requirement for a written lifting plan comes into force when the lift becomes complex. I have seen and discussed this with my colleagues and the definition becomes confused at best. Please would somebody clarify this discussion for me
paulw71  
#2 Posted : 18 October 2013 12:31:51(UTC)
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paulw71

I dont think you will find an agreed definition. LOLER does not provide a description as to what constitutes a "complex" lifting operation. However the requirement for a risk assessment and lifting plan applies to all lifts not just complex ones. LOLER requires that for complex lifts the plan should be reviewed prior to each lift. In light of this I would suggest that a suggested definition of a complex lift would involve one where the size and shape of the loads will vary and where the environment of the lift is changeble, the route of the load varies introducing the possibility of obstructions and potentially different hazards with each lift etc. In other words any lift where a day to day risk assessment or method statement would be redundant. I am sure someone will provide a better definition/opinion as to what constitutes this but this is how I would interpret this requirement. Regards
Animax01  
#3 Posted : 18 October 2013 12:53:15(UTC)
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Animax01

I agree with Paul on this, a standard lift that you may carry out daily, hourly etc. will more than likely have been covered by your risk assessments. If you are unsure about the load, the equipment or routes then I would advise on planning and supervising accordingly. It will take a reasonable amount of common sense, as long as you can justify your decision and you document this then I really think it's quite straight forward. http://www.hse.gov.uk/wo...g-lifting-operations.htm I hope this helps. Pete
alexmccreadie13  
#4 Posted : 18 October 2013 14:47:16(UTC)
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alexmccreadie13

There used to be a good explanation on the CPA site but it seems to have disappeared. BS7121 Part 1 is what you need a copy of. Complex Lift. More than 1 crane Hazardous Area like Petro Chem, Nuclear plant, Steel Works and more. Lifting People. Railway Lines. Heavy or Bulky Loads and many more. As mentioned most every day lifts would be a standard lift when it gets out of the ordinary you would be looking at Complex. Hope this helps. Ta Alex
nickygee  
#5 Posted : 20 October 2013 16:29:15(UTC)
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nickygee

In my world, offshore oil and gas sector, any doubt about this, and we would defer to North Sea Lifting (NSL) who are taken as the gurus on what's right and wrong as far as lifting and rigging practices go. Most companies now have their own pretty tight procedures and definitions, but nearly all are based on NSL guidelines. Visit their website, they also supply pretty useful pocked guidebooks for reference in the field. Hope this helps Cheers
paul reynolds  
#6 Posted : 20 October 2013 16:47:50(UTC)
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paul reynolds

With reference to BS7121 you will also need an appointed person to write your lifting plan Regards PaulR
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