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bluefingers  
#1 Posted : 24 October 2013 11:56:25(UTC)
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bluefingers

I am employed as a Health and Safety Advisor for a SME working in heavy fabrication for the off-shore and subsea industries. The organisation has ISO 9001, 14001 and 18001. A quality manager looks after the three systems.
The quality manager is leaving the company soon and he is not being replaced by the company, for unknown reasons.
I am being pressured to take on the additional responsibilities of a) being the environmental representative, and, b) managing the standards, including 9001.
I feel that the additional workload and responsibility, without recompense, is an unreasonable adjustment to my workload, and I wondered what other members thought on the subject.
Johnmann  
#2 Posted : 24 October 2013 12:09:30(UTC)
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Johnmann

Take on the work, then at your next pay review point out all the extra good stuff you've been doing and ask for a rise.
hilary  
#3 Posted : 24 October 2013 12:17:00(UTC)
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hilary

Bluefingers

I am employed in a similar position to you for a similar type of organisation. We also have the three systems in place.

I am totally responsible for ISO 14001 and OHSAS 18001, all EHS, emergency maintenance works and some related capital expenditure projects. I also have some other "inherited tasks" which bear little relation to my job role but I seem to have got stuck with owing to my longevity with the organisation. I work 5 hours a day at these tasks and, with good systems in place, this is sufficient.

While I appreciate that you feel this is an unreasonable adjustment, and I am totally in accord with you, the person that can juggle different tasks, wear different hats and continue to achieve is the person that makes themselves indispensible to the organisation. Once you are fully conversant with all the tasks, managing them and proving you can, that would be the time to go back and say "you gave me all these extra tasks and no extra money, I am managing these which is saving you squillions - can I have some please?".

Simple answer - prove you can do the job and make it difficult for them to say no. There are loads of competent people out there who if you say "I can't" will turn round and say "I can, give me the job".
AndyMak  
#4 Posted : 24 October 2013 12:21:08(UTC)
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AndyMak

To take on the management of standards and their associated systems requires training in the operation of the standards, what maintaining the standards involve, and does represent a significant change in your work.
Ideally to maintain these systems effectively your should be a trained lead auditor, or have significant experience of audit procedures and arrangements.

What it sounds like they need is an IMS manager who will manage the maintenance of the system, ensure relevant systems are in place to maintain audit trails, manage and arrange internal audits, manage and arrange external audits. It's a damned sight more than being an H&S advisor.

Start by finding out how much training for the bolt on role will be and hit them with that, then start dropping hints about job title changes and that IMS managers can earn around £55K a year, that might put them off a bit!
bluefingers  
#5 Posted : 24 October 2013 12:22:52(UTC)
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bluefingers

I appreciate these thoughts and comments. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
PIKEMAN  
#6 Posted : 24 October 2013 12:42:43(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

I agree with the above posts, take it on, then be ruthless in being a "manager" rather than a "doer" of these systems. Make managers take responsibility for their bits and actually doing stuff such as audits - you become the champion and the owner of the system. That would be my approach. Document everything you take on - as evidence when you ask for a review. Better still ask in advance "what's in it for me?"
bluefingers  
#7 Posted : 24 October 2013 18:42:56(UTC)
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bluefingers

Pikeman, I like your style. You can be my wingman!!
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