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Sylviaann  
#1 Posted : 05 November 2013 14:19:42(UTC)
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Sylviaann

Can anyone point me to a definition of amputation for specified injuries over and above what is on the HSE web pages e.g. amputation of an arm, hand, finger, thumb, leg, foot or toe - including both traumatic and surgical etc?

Tried HSE contact - no response at this time - so looking for what others believe the specified

Would a tip of a finger be classed as an amputation, therefore a specified injury?

Colleagues are saying previoulsy only counted if below first joint - however, I can only see publications stating that the HSE will only investigate if amputation below first joint, not that it isn't reportable as a major / specified.

The accident has been reported by contractor as an amputation and also been off over 7 days, but interesting that the definition doesn't state partial amputation of a finger / toe - previously it said 'any' amputation.
redken  
#2 Posted : 05 November 2013 14:50:17(UTC)
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redken

“however, I can only see publications stating that the HSE will only investigate if amputation below first joint, not that it isn't reportable as a major / specified.”

This is from the HSE incident selection for investigation criteria, which makes it clear that first of all the incident has to reportable under RIDOOR.( otherwise how would they know about it?)
Annex 1 – Revised incident selection criteria 1 October 2010
Criteria for selection for investigation of RIDDOR notifications (except gas incidents reported under Reg 6(1) and 6(2))
Fatalities - All fatalities as a result of an incident arising out of or in connection with work activities. This specifically excludes suicides* and deaths from natural causes.
Injuries to all persons, including non-employees, irrespective of cause that meet the following conditions:
1. all amputations of digit(s) past the first joint

http://www.hse.gov.uk/fo...c_admin_81.htm#selection
Sylviaann  
#3 Posted : 05 November 2013 15:11:18(UTC)
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Sylviaann

Just had a response through the HSE - unless it is a full digit, i.e. whole finger - only reportable if becomes over 7 day!!

walker  
#4 Posted : 05 November 2013 15:27:18(UTC)
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walker

I know I'm a bit of a wuss, but not many of us are going to be able to do all our normal job functions 7 days after loosing a lump of finger.
DP  
#5 Posted : 05 November 2013 17:12:26(UTC)
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DP

Interesting HSE definition – I lost my finger many years ago in an workplace accident – just above the 1st joint. It was classed as an amputation in all my medical notes even though they stitched it back on as some skin held it on. Pre 95 no L73 info ion this one.

The DSS also classified this as an amputation and classified me 3% disabled as such – so definitions have changed.
stuie  
#6 Posted : 05 November 2013 19:54:11(UTC)
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stuie

My first riddor was an amputation - I phoned the hse infoline (which used to be really useful :-) in its day); the definition I was given at the time was if there was bone removed from bone then it was an amputation - which seemed reasonable enough to me.
HTH
Stu
jchc  
#7 Posted : 09 March 2016 21:01:32(UTC)
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jchc

Sylviaann wrote:
Just had a response through the HSE - unless it is a full digit, i.e. whole finger - only reportable if becomes over 7 day!!



Can anyone confirm this?
HSSnail  
#8 Posted : 11 March 2016 11:50:05(UTC)
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HSSnail

Would appear at odds to their own selection criteria
http://www.hse.gov.uk/enforce/incidselcrits.pdf
Which as already been said states investigation needed if amputation below 1st joint. Well if you don't have to notify unless full finger how will they even get report to investigate!
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