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ayoflow  
#1 Posted : 05 November 2013 14:03:12(UTC)
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ayoflow

I am currently working on a project to improve manual handling in my factory. In the production section in question i have got Dumoulins of mint to be unloaded to an automated mechanism. Currently we unload on to tubs and scoop with buckets on to trays. The room is not big at all so the problem is space and height (No head room Either) Kindly suggest a company who can render a solution where many engineering companies have failed.
Thank you
Jane Blunt  
#2 Posted : 05 November 2013 14:07:32(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

I don't understand this bit of the question

'Dumoulins of mint'

could you exapnd on this?
ayoflow  
#3 Posted : 05 November 2013 14:15:17(UTC)
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ayoflow

Dumoulin : automatic high capacity panning systems for chocolate engrossing and varnishing; hard and soft, sugar and sugar-free coating. In this case we use them for Mints Imperial.
A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 05 November 2013 15:47:01(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

So you don't make coins then( except chocolate ones?)

Seriously we all need to keep an eye out on our use of industry specific jargon
walker  
#5 Posted : 05 November 2013 15:56:35(UTC)
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walker

a quick google suggests Dommoulin is a trade name for confectionary factory plant.

I'm guessing you want to load pellets (sweeties) onto a conveyor belt ?
ayoflow  
#6 Posted : 05 November 2013 16:56:49(UTC)
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ayoflow

Dumoulin is a trade mark, what i am referring to is a chocolate / Mint imperial coating Drum, but in specific Dumoulin Coating Drum.
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 05 November 2013 21:52:25(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Screw conveyor? or is this stuff too sticky?
ayoflow  
#8 Posted : 05 November 2013 22:54:18(UTC)
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ayoflow

Screw Conveyor? The room is quite small and the arrangement of each coating drum is such a way that we position syrup tanks in between them, Hence colleagues would need access to those tanks and the Screw Conveyor will constitute a trip hazard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Graham Bullough  
#9 Posted : 06 November 2013 01:00:22(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

As a total aside to this topic there's apparently a rumour that makers of Mint Imperials (or perhaps more accurately Mints Imperial) are having to comply retrospectively with EC regulations and refer to them as Mints Metric ! :-)
Jane Blunt  
#10 Posted : 06 November 2013 07:50:27(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

ayoflow

It is unlikely that there are many people on this forum who are conversant with this technology, and it looks as though there is not an 'industry' solution to this problem, or you would already have found it.

Therefore, you will need to explain in some detail what the layout and problem are, otherwise we are just going to make wild guesses, most of which will be way off the mark. If you need someone with a fresh pair of eyes to look at the problem, you need to be able to describe that problem to them clearly.

JJ Prendergast  
#11 Posted : 06 November 2013 08:43:13(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

Agree with Jane, more info / better defined explanation of the problem is required.

But from the information given so far - if the room isn't big enough, it ain't big enough - end of!!
Ron Hunter  
#12 Posted : 06 November 2013 11:52:33(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

ayoflow wrote:
Screw Conveyor? The room is quite small and the arrangement of each coating drum is such a way that we position syrup tanks in between them, Hence colleagues would need access to those tanks and the Screw Conveyor will constitute a trip hazard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A bit harsh. Screw conveyors are not usually floor mounted. I was attempting to describe a solution that might have eliminated this intermediate handling operation involving a decanting from the bulk container. If it's a loose solid it can be moved by conveyor or suction, if it's a liquid it can be pumped- and may be even dosed and dispensed accurately - from somewhere else, with minimal alteration (a couple of holes in the wall).
Might free up some space for you too.
OK it might cost money, but magic wands are getting harder to come by these days.

When you invite people to make suggestions based on sketchy information try not to be dismissive?
MEden380  
#13 Posted : 06 November 2013 15:50:26(UTC)
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MEden380

ayoflow
Have you had a look at a vacuum lifting system as used in pharmaceutical industry for moving tablets. Its a bit like a vacuum hose that lifts tablets out of a drum and deposits in to what ever
NickRoarty  
#14 Posted : 06 November 2013 17:00:09(UTC)
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NickRoarty

I'm overcome with intrigue.
Chocolate coated mint imperials! Who manufactures and where can I buy some? ;o)
ayoflow  
#15 Posted : 08 November 2013 14:52:50(UTC)
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ayoflow

MEden380
Thank you for the suggestion, i have actually looked into the vacuum lifting system and it seems to be a viable option
@ ron hunter i do appologise i am not being dismissive, i explored the conveyor option in the past and various companies could not come up with the best way to install them in the room.
I will be post a video of the room on youtube and create a link, that way people will have better idea of what i am reffering to.
SP900308  
#16 Posted : 08 November 2013 15:15:14(UTC)
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SP900308

Probably got the wrong end of the stick but.......is gravity feed an option?

You say you have height limitations but, if you had a room above, with access for materials to be mechanically delivered to the above room (may be single story building of course?), you could have a hopper on the first floor and feed the machine from there - delivered by pallet / forklift?

Just a thought!

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