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I'm going to become an employer for the first time as follows:
Social Services have agreed my daughter qualifies for funding for respite care for my wife and I and we have found a suitable lady to be her personal assistant. (Yes that's her job title).
We met this morning with the accountant for Social Services who talked us through the process and requirements, receive money into the bank - pay PA weekly through her bank - records of every transaction - contract of employment - insurance - income tax etc. etc.
The only thing I could see was missing are risk assessments, and I raised this and she just gave me a blank look and that surprised me especially with the current state of Social Services and child care etc.
OK so I will carry out risk assessments, the PA will attend our home, visit various rooms i.e. living room, daughter's bedroom, kitchen, bathroom, she will also be taking our daughter out to various places including local shops, cinema, swimming baths, sports hall and lots of other places we have not thought about yet. We may even be taking her on holiday with us?
So can I please have some suggestions for risk assessments that are needed to cover this area of the employment contract?
Technically speaking this could be my second employee as my wife is on my books but is self employed herself?
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Less than 5 employees- no written record required. On all other respects, what work activity here compounds everyday risk? Is there anything actually worthy of assessment?
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ron you make a very good point but some may look to risk assess everything?
I know no records are required and it is all low risk anyway, perhaps something is better than nothing.
We will provide training in managing the wheelchair user when out and about, and there is more to that then people may think.
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Firesafety - I work for a health & social care provider. Feel free to PM me and I can give you info on the risk assessments/support plans that we have in place for staff who provide home and community-based support to our service users.
Sam
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Was reading in the paper the other week:
Chap had a carer for his wife.
Wife died.
Chap told carer there was (obviously) no longer a job
Carer took chap to tribunal for unfair dismissal and redudo money
Cleaned him out
This assumes the newspaper correctly reported the incident
Make sure you are insured
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samjen1973 wrote:Firesafety - I work for a health & social care provider. Feel free to PM me and I can give you info on the risk assessments/support plans that we have in place for staff who provide home and community-based support to our service users.
Sam
pm on its way, many thanks sam
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walker wrote:Was reading in the paper the other week:
Chap had a carer for his wife.
Wife died.
Chap told carer there was (obviously) no longer a job
Carer took chap to tribunal for unfair dismissal and redudo money
Cleaned him out
This assumes the newspaper correctly reported the incident
Make sure you are insured
What paper?
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Google: carer redundancy and mirror article pops up - it wasn't in the mirror I read it i hasten to add.
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Firesafety101 wrote:ron you make a very good point but some may look to risk assess everything?
I know no records are required and it is all low risk anyway, perhaps something is better than nothing.
We will provide training in managing the wheelchair user when out and about, and there is more to that then people may think.
Agreed on wheelchair, transfers, any hoists, bathlifts, adaptations etc. You didn't allude to anything specific in your OP.
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Hi FS101
So glad you're getting the respite care - we're respite foster carers and know how valauble this opprtunity is for everyone - the child, parents and other siblings.
Whilst it is sensible to assess the risks, your new employee may be classed as a Domestic Servant and thus excluded from the provisions of HASWA. I say this only for technical accuracy, rather than suggesting you do nothing!
It's not clear cut, so take a look at http://www.hse.gov.uk/fo...sims/pub_serv/071105.htm
Ian
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Thanks Ian, I had a look and think she will not be a domestic servant as there will be outdoor activities for her.
Walker - I found the article and it doesn't make sense. The wording refers to the local authority on one hand being responsible then on the other hand they had nothing to do with the payments.
I have a contract of employment that determines the role, pay, sickness, holidays etc. She will be employed as Personal Assistant to my daughter, once the need goes away the job goes as well.
I'm leaning toward risk assessing everything but not keeping records of the assessments, just a list of what I have assessed.
Thanks to all, very interesting.
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I just read this article. It seems that instead of the husband cancelling the contract when his wife died, he kept the carer on to care for him. This then ceased to be an arrangement through the LA and he became the employer. Had he simply cancelled the arrangement when his wife died there would be no comeback and no redundancy due.
Firesafety101 - so glad you are finally getting somewhere. I think a one page risk assessment and H&S Policy Statement should do, just the obvious stuff related to the wheelchair and other specific disability related equipment. For example, I would not expect that you have to tell this person that kitchen knives are sharp or stairs are steep, but those things specifically to do with your daughter's condition which the carer would not come into contact with in her own domestic life would be good.
I hope this all works out very well for you.
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Thank you Hilary, that's what I thought until receiving some info from Sam, thanks Sam.
I'll probably do something in between now.
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