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Ryan553  
#1 Posted : 25 November 2013 15:19:27(UTC)
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Ryan553

Can someone please help recently an HSE Inspection was carried out on one of our sites, the Inspector recommended that we store the Acetylene Cylinder separately from other Gases.
However on reading the HSE Guidance note HSG136 Section 55 it states
Acetylene cylinders may be stored outdoors with LPG unless the total quantity of LPG exceeds 50 kg, when separation by a minimum of 3 m or a fire wall is recommended. The quantity we have on site is far below the 50kg.
Furthermore the BCGA GN 2 Table 2 states that a 3m separation distance is required between Acetylene and Bulk Storage of Flammable Gases however below 50kg no specific separation is defined.
4.1.1 Of BCGA GN2 also states that no separation distances are needed between individual cylinders.
Therefore can someone please clarify if the HSE Inspector was right to request this?
mssy  
#2 Posted : 25 November 2013 19:17:14(UTC)
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mssy

Sorry, I am confused. You start your post stating the inspector 'recommended' certain action. Then finish by asking was s/he right to 'request' this?

So was it advice (which you can choose to to take on board or not) or a request (implies enforcement)

If it was the former, and you have written evidence you are complying with good practice, then maybe this HSE inspector got it wrong

Alternatively - contact him/her & ask!
John M  
#3 Posted : 25 November 2013 19:36:59(UTC)
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John M

HSE 136 deals with workplace transport safety does it not?

Jon
John M  
#4 Posted : 25 November 2013 19:38:03(UTC)
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John M

HSG 136 not HSE 136 as posted.

Jon
SBH  
#5 Posted : 25 November 2013 22:21:17(UTC)
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SBH

We have banned all storage of oxy acetylene on our sites. PRIMARILY due to the 200m exclusion zone in the event of a fire incident. Maybe OTT but better safe than no business.

SBH
Brett Day SP  
#6 Posted : 27 November 2013 14:33:26(UTC)
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Brett Day SP


SBH

There is going to be a change in national policy regarding acetylene that all UK fire services will be adopting: http://www.bcga.co.uk/preview/cif.php

If that's of any use.
Jane Blunt  
#7 Posted : 28 November 2013 11:12:15(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

The Fire Service is likely to put a 200m exclusion zone around premises whatever the identity of the gas.
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