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Nimble057  
#1 Posted : 10 December 2013 14:42:19(UTC)
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Nimble057

I recently found that at least 1 member of staff has been sleeping in the office. Any specific examples to batter them with
walker  
#2 Posted : 10 December 2013 14:45:34(UTC)
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walker

What overnight or during work hours?
Nimble057  
#3 Posted : 10 December 2013 14:50:59(UTC)
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Nimble057

Overnight - looking for an example ending something along the lines of "and he leaves behind a wife and 2 children"
A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 10 December 2013 14:58:18(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Apart from the fact that the FRA does not take into account that people are sleeping in the office nothing really.
Melrose80086  
#5 Posted : 10 December 2013 15:23:16(UTC)
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Melrose80086

Hey, you're getting an unpaid security guard over the Christmas Period! As A Kurdziel says - probably not covered by fire risk assessment. If alarm codes / motion sensors / lights on then could activate or have the neighbours sending round the police to have a wee look about the premises leading to some difficult questions for the person involved. "er...I work here...." "sure you do son....and you often have a sleeping bag at your desk eh...committed to your job no doubt...I think we jaunt to the Police Station is in order sir?"
Corfield35303  
#6 Posted : 10 December 2013 15:31:58(UTC)
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Corfield35303

phew - thought I'd been rumbled...... The fire safety of people alone and at night might be an issue, I thought insurance for a moment but if anything this would drive premiums down. Beyond that, nothing except maybe some hygiene/food hygiene aspects. In my previous role (in the very expensive south east) an employee tried parking his camper van in the car park to save money on getting a B&B.......
Nimble057  
#7 Posted : 10 December 2013 15:38:32(UTC)
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Nimble057

In a particulary P.O.ed mood with the savages today
Melrose80086  
#8 Posted : 10 December 2013 15:40:54(UTC)
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Melrose80086

Nimble057 wrote:
In a particulary P.O.ed mood with the savages today
sorry? Staff at your work or comments left on the forum - please clarify!
Corfield35303  
#9 Posted : 10 December 2013 15:42:36(UTC)
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Corfield35303

Nimble - beyond health and safety it is clearly unacceptable for people to sleep in offices, its beyond anything that would ever be in a policy. But in terms of worrying colleagues, lone working, security, image and reputation? But if you have stuff in place about security and fire safety they could be sent packing on those basis alone. (what is the plural for basis...?)
Dazzling Puddock  
#10 Posted : 10 December 2013 15:55:42(UTC)
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Dazzling Puddock

Have you asked why they are sleeping in the office?
ExDeeps  
#11 Posted : 10 December 2013 16:17:51(UTC)
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ExDeeps

Nimble057 wrote:
In a particulary P.O.ed mood with the savages today
I would simply trot along to the person's line manager and/or HR and have a quiet word along the lines of "Did you know fred/bert/algie is sleeping on site - as a caring employer perhaps you would like to offer them a cuppa tea and a chat to see what's up" then walk away with your halo intact. Not an H&S issue, operational/personal/personnel issue Jim
Nimble057  
#12 Posted : 11 December 2013 07:33:15(UTC)
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Nimble057

Many thanks folks; and the "savages" remark was of course in no way directed at the fine ladies and gents on here. Yesterday was one of those days where the shower of effulent being rained down was right up to my neck by midday; and that moron was enough to make it bubble under my nose; as it were. Fingers crossed for today.....
martin1  
#13 Posted : 12 December 2013 13:10:12(UTC)
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martin1

Conduct a risk assessment. hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahhahahhahhahahah sorry - been a strange day. By the way I sleep in the office most days and no one seems to notice.
Gunner1  
#14 Posted : 12 December 2013 15:29:31(UTC)
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Gunner1

Is the person 'at work' when they are asleep? An employee would be expected to work when in the office not sleep in the office. Maybe they have been kicked out of home or something? It's one of those issues I would suggest is about if something happened to them during their sleeping hours would be it be considered they were 'at work'? No, I would say and therefore for their own personal safety and the business they should not be allowed to sleep in the office.
jfw  
#15 Posted : 14 December 2013 20:31:48(UTC)
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jfw

Reminds me of an incident involving an old house mate from years ago when I lived in a shared house. He got his first job as an office junior in a merchant bank in the City. They had their Christmas party at the Savoy every year on a Thursday night and it was standard practice for everyone to go back to the office and sleep under their desks rather than struggle home across London. After one of these parties he woke in the early hours feeling unwell, having obviously over indulged the night before. Making a quick dash to the nearest toilets, he flung open the first cubicle door and threw up. Clearly still under the influence, he then realised that the noises he could now hear, where coming from his boss, who was asleep, on the toilet, trousers round his ankles and now covered in vomit ! This was followed by another quick dash back to the sleeping bag under his desk and wait to see what happens. The next morning his boss was nowhere to be seen and nobody heard from him through the day. When he came in on the Monday morning, he apparently said he felt unwell, so got a taxi home and spent the day in bed. So my housemate got away with it.
CarlT  
#16 Posted : 14 December 2013 22:24:28(UTC)
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CarlT

LOL, nearly fell off my chair. I bet his boss would have been spewing if he found out what happened.
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