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safetyamateur		#1 Posted : 12 December 2013 13:49:42(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		1. Is there a reason why this course doesn't show up as an IOSH training product when there's providers out there? 2. Is it any good? 3. Is there anything better?
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safetyamateur		#2 Posted : 13 December 2013 10:27:15(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Seriously? No comment on training for directors?
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John M		#3 Posted : 13 December 2013 10:57:40(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		3. Is there anything better?[/quote wrote: Is it any good? I can think of nothing worse! Jon
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Safe Hanz		#4 Posted : 13 December 2013 11:21:43(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		IOSH do accredit various courses given by external providers. Not what the directors course involves, you'd have to ask the provider of the value and see how they respond.
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teh_boy		#5 Posted : 13 December 2013 11:29:16(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Surely it all depends on providers... IOSH DS is a course designed by providers and approved by IOSH - I guess this results in a range of experiences from - death by power-point, to an informative and engaging experience. I think it's a good course and be very beneficial when delivered correctly!
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Safe Hanz		#6 Posted : 13 December 2013 11:44:01(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		All providers are audited by IOSH in order that "death by powerpoint" is not an issue and course instructors have to have a basic teaching qualification so are aware of how to teach in an effective manner. Contact a few providers if you're thinking of taking a course and ask for a copy of the course overview and recommendations from past delegates.
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Victor Meldrew		#7 Posted : 13 December 2013 12:32:27(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Suggest you put your own course together - I find it works much better that way. However, you need to remember it will constantly need 'tweeking'.
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peter gotch		#8 Posted : 13 December 2013 12:38:11(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		SafetyAmateur Directing Safely is an off the shelf package aimed at Directors of Small to Medium Enterprises that can be run on an open course basis. IOSH also accredit Safety for Senior Executives aimed at Directors of larger organisations. However, this has to be bespoke to providers, and is typically adapted to reflect the HSW management systems of those receiving the training, i.e. usually not suited to Directors from more than one organisation.
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safetyamateur		#9 Posted : 13 December 2013 13:40:32(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Victor Meldrew wrote: Suggest you put your own course together - I find it works much better that way. However, you need to remember it will constantly need 'tweeking'. I'm intrigued, Vic. Are you suggesting that in-house H&S present to their own board level?
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safetyamateur		#10 Posted : 13 December 2013 13:42:14(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		peter g, that's worth knowing. Thanks.
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Victor Meldrew		#11 Posted : 13 December 2013 16:33:02(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: Suggest you put your own course together - I find it works much better that way. However, you need to remember it will constantly need 'tweeking'. I'm intrigued, Vic. Are you suggesting that in-house H&S present to their own board level? Why not - I did as an employee & found it effective.
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safetyamateur		#12 Posted : 16 December 2013 08:29:56(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Victor Meldrew wrote: safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: Suggest you put your own course together - I find it works much better that way. However, you need to remember it will constantly need 'tweeking'. I'm intrigued, Vic. Are you suggesting that in-house H&S present to their own board level? Why not - I did as an employee & found it effective. Glad to hear it but that won't be the case here. A stranger stands more chance of being heard and taken seriously.
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Victor Meldrew		#13 Posted : 16 December 2013 08:47:03(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: Suggest you put your own course together - I find it works much better that way. However, you need to remember it will constantly need 'tweeking'. I'm intrigued, Vic. Are you suggesting that in-house H&S present to their own board level? Why not - I did as an employee & found it effective. Glad to hear it but that won't be the case here. A stranger stands more chance of being heard and taken seriously. Yes, I can understand that. Shame really but you are not on your own - I have three sessions booked in January for companies who obviously won't listen to their own person.
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Gunner1		#14 Posted : 16 December 2013 09:24:39(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		I do it as an annual event for the Board. Further suggestion is to have a Board member with specific responsibility for Health and Safety, that helps as the ticket for ensuring H&S at senior level is kept on the agenda.
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walker		#15 Posted : 16 December 2013 09:36:33(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: Suggest you put your own course together - I find it works much better that way. However, you need to remember it will constantly need 'tweeking'. I'm intrigued, Vic. Are you suggesting that in-house H&S present to their own board level? Why not - I did as an employee & found it effective. Glad to hear it but that won't be the case here. A stranger stands more chance of being heard and taken seriously. I learned long ago you can't be a prophet in your own land. SA: look's like Victor has experience in this and you appear to be in the same region so is the answer staring you in the face ?
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safetyamateur		#16 Posted : 16 December 2013 09:43:08(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		walker wrote: safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: Suggest you put your own course together - I find it works much better that way. However, you need to remember it will constantly need 'tweeking'. I'm intrigued, Vic. Are you suggesting that in-house H&S present to their own board level? Why not - I did as an employee & found it effective. Glad to hear it but that won't be the case here. A stranger stands more chance of being heard and taken seriously. I learned long ago you can't be a prophet in your own land. SA: look's like Victor has experience in this and you appear to be in the same region so is the answer staring you in the face ? Could be. Long way to go yet.
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Victor Meldrew		#17 Posted : 16 December 2013 12:36:06(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		walker wrote: safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: safetyamateur wrote: Victor Meldrew wrote: Suggest you put your own course together - I find it works much better that way. However, you need to remember it will constantly need 'tweeking'. I'm intrigued, Vic. Are you suggesting that in-house H&S present to their own board level? Why not - I did as an employee & found it effective. Glad to hear it but that won't be the case here. A stranger stands more chance of being heard and taken seriously. I learned long ago you can't be a prophet in your own land. SA: look's like Victor has experience in this and you appear to be in the same region so is the answer staring you in the face ? Hold on ;-) I'm supposed to be retiring. Edited by moderator 17 December 2013 16:47:06(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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