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Jez@IIA  
#1 Posted : 04 January 2014 15:41:48(UTC)
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Jez@IIA

hI ALL,

To my esteemed colleagues I have a question about reporting,
One of our workers have reported to me that he suffered an electric shock (in Southern Ireland) for which he now having physiotherapy for but is continuing to work as normal no limited or light duties.
My question is guys is it reportable and if so where to HSE OR HSA. I am really stuck here guys please help.

Cheers
Jez.
robtarn495  
#2 Posted : 04 January 2014 21:44:16(UTC)
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robtarn495

Did he go to hospital? Did he need resuscitation? How long (if any) was he hospitalised for? Was he off work at any point?

More detail required really. See here so you may be able to get more from this.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/ri...reportable-incidents.htm
Jez@IIA  
#3 Posted : 05 January 2014 13:03:54(UTC)
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Jez@IIA

Robtarn

It would be quite straight forward if he stayed in hospital for 24hrs or more, needed resus. and so forth but he did not but after the incident he felt it necessary to visit the hospital and subsequently was put o a period of pyhsio. My real question is if it is reportable which I don't think it is then where should I report HSE or HSA ( bearing in mind its a UK employer)..

Cheers for any further help.
Canopener  
#4 Posted : 05 January 2014 16:00:19(UTC)
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Canopener

In order to answer the question, surely we need to know whose 'enforcement jurisdiction' the employee/employer is under?
Jez@IIA  
#5 Posted : 05 January 2014 19:45:38(UTC)
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Jez@IIA

Lets gets real guys if you don't know just say so.
Honestly, I thought a junior safety bod could get some advise for free as a result of paying my membership fees no wonder some people have a dim view of our profession.
I will use some other source of info. Thanks anyway
Kate.  
#6 Posted : 05 January 2014 19:48:46(UTC)
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Kate.

See Regulation 19 of RIDDOR:

Extension outside Great Britain

19. These Regulations apply to premises and activities outside Great Britain to which sections 1 to 59 and 80 to 82 of the 1974 Act apply by virtue of the 2013 Order as they apply within Great Britain.

http://www.legislation.g.../1471/regulation/19/made

So you need to see if the HASAWA applies to your activity.
Kate.  
#7 Posted : 05 January 2014 19:51:04(UTC)
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Kate.

And to see if it does or not, see this: http://www.legislation.g...i/2013/240/contents/made
stuie  
#8 Posted : 05 January 2014 19:51:26(UTC)
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stuie

Jez, what make you think it is reportable? From the info given I would not report.
As an aside you will see that people dont generally respond on the forums so much at weekends - hence the few views and replies to your OP. Dont take it personally.
Stu
Jez@IIA  
#9 Posted : 05 January 2014 19:57:47(UTC)
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Jez@IIA

thanks for the help and advise
Stuie and Kate much appreciated.
I am of the opinion that it is not reportable but wanted to put it out there for feed back thanks again
johnmc  
#10 Posted : 05 January 2014 20:39:18(UTC)
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johnmc

Hi Jez, I'm of the same mind that its not reportable and if it was it would be to the HSA as the incident happened and the workplace is in their jurisdiction.
Good luck.
wjp62  
#11 Posted : 06 January 2014 09:01:39(UTC)
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wjp62

Agree enforcing authority would be HSA. See HSA website as they still have over 3 day injuries/absences
http://www.hsa.ie/eng/To...us_Occurrence_Reporting/
Canopener  
#12 Posted : 06 January 2014 09:10:49(UTC)
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Canopener

Your paying membership of IOSH has little (no) bearing on whether you are going to get the right answer.

As always the key to getting the right answer is to ask the right question and provide sufficient details for people to be able to be able to provide an informed answer; otherwise you will get any number of uninformed (and contradictory) answers.

However, regarding #2 and your response at #3, I suggest that the answer isn’t as “straightforward” as you suggest. The reporting requirements for resuscitation and/or admittance to hospital for >24 hours is restricted to those incidents arising out of working in enclosed spaces.

Overall I would suggest that this is not reportable on the basis of the information that you have provided, unless there is something material that you haven’t mentioned e.g. his shock was as the result of his ladder coming into contact with overhead power lines, which might then be reportable as a dangerous occurrence.
Jez@IIA  
#13 Posted : 06 January 2014 12:53:11(UTC)
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Jez@IIA

Thanks all,

I appreciate every single comment and do bear in mind that it was the weekend and understand the point made. Thanks again.
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