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ALI1  
#1 Posted : 19 January 2014 21:47:04(UTC)
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ALI1

A colleague of mine called me on Friday to seek my opinion regarding an accident that occurred at his place of work. A member of his Staff was carrying out normal duties which involved the feeding of raw material for further processing. Whilst walking to the machine hopper the Operator found himself on the floor sustaining a knee injury requiring Hospital treatment Upon further investigation the root cause of the accident was attributed to the Operator having an unknown medical condition which caused him to faint. It is very likely that the injury sustained will incapacitate the injured person over 7 days and subsequently the question I was asked was" should it be reported to the HSE". My advice was that if the injured person is incapacitated for over 7 days the accident must be reported to the HSE under the RIDDOR. Do you agree with the advice that I gave my colleague Best Regards John
John J  
#2 Posted : 20 January 2014 00:38:36(UTC)
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John J

If the fainting and collapse are as a result of an underlying medical condition that is unrelated to work, then no it doesn't need to be reported. Just because it happened at work doesn't make it reportable.
firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 20 January 2014 00:45:14(UTC)
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firesafety101

But it was an accident at work so reportable.
chris42  
#4 Posted : 20 January 2014 09:03:12(UTC)
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chris42

You may want to consider if the workplace / work load contributed to the incident. ie was it excessively hot etc. Before you can make a decision. Chris
David Bannister  
#5 Posted : 20 January 2014 09:14:16(UTC)
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David Bannister

"a RIDDOR report is required only when: the accident is work-related" Direct quote from HSE's website: http://www.hse.gov.uk/ri...reportable-incidents.htm Thus Chris42 and John J are offering good advice.
SW  
#6 Posted : 20 January 2014 10:40:58(UTC)
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SW

I am with the non-report camp if there were no external factors involved and it was purely contributed by an external condition. A Company I know reported an over seven day injury when the operator tripped on the stairs ruining their three years without an LTI. In this instance he was just clumsy - footwear in good condition, lighting good, no defects, slip hazards on stairs, not rushing through work pressure, not carrying anything etc. I would not have reported this like I would not report yours.
Kate.  
#7 Posted : 20 January 2014 10:42:15(UTC)
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Kate.

Once again, the answer is in the published guidance as already indicated. The guidance includes more detail about what counts as work-related so I suggest reviewing that part of it.
kdrum  
#8 Posted : 20 January 2014 11:12:08(UTC)
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kdrum

Based on information given I would say No as not work related. Just because it happens at work does not make it work related, as Kate advises read the guidance (L73) and decide based on that and the detail you have as to how the incident occured. It incident does not meet criteria of the three key factors then in my opinion not reportable
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