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Hello, four of these have turned up on site. There are four glass phials around 5" long with a water like liquid in them No-one recognises them, even those with 10-30 years experince. Please check out the photo linked below and tell me what I have so I can get rid of them via our haz waste channel!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/horsham/12117107956
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They could be anything. They are not "water like" they are "liquid" - not the same thing.
It does look like an ampoule containing some sort of drug or pharma type substance. Beyond that, it could be anything. Are there no markings at all?
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Turned up on site as in dumped or turned up on site as in found in a store room?
In the face of lack of information I would designate them as last remaining Zombie eggs and treat with extreme caution, you coiuld have the fate of the Western world in your hand
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Hi M, they look a lot like chemical anchors that I have used many years ago, but without the packaging I can't be sure, but if you had that......
Good luck anyway.
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They turned up in the wrong hazardous waste bin and were rejected by the collector, quite rightly.
Thanks for the suggestion of zombie eggs, I had no idea that was how they reproduced. I thought it was just an illness spread through poor infection control. I'll see if they have hatched come Monday, if not then I still need the help of you out there!
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Agree with johnmc. I think they may be epoxy resin for use with rawlbolt type fixings
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DNW wrote:Agree with johnmc. I think they may be epoxy resin for use with rawlbolt type fixings
I doubt it - they appear to be only one component. Resin fixings generally have two components, since you need to mix A with B to make it go off. You could in principle (ie, chemically) have UV-activated resin, but if you did that you wouldn't have it in a glass phial.
The phial designs mostly also have aggregate included.
I've never seen ones with plastic lumps attached. Why would you do that - you need to put the phial down the hole - you don't want a lump of plastic jammed up down your hole.
I've never seen ones with break waists either.
See, for example:
http://content.fischer.d...%23SALL_%23AID_%23V1.jpg
No plastic lumps, aggregate inside. You can't see from that photo but there's another capsule inside the outer one that contains the other chemical component.
They don't look like anchor capsules to me.
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Without any information it is impossible to establish what they are. DO NOT OPEN THEM UP.
They look like ampoules but it is not clear what they contain. As the glass is orange it could be ampoules of drugs. But is could also be a solution of vitamin A!
Can you find out who sent it out? If you do, explain to them in words of one syllable where they have gone wrong.
This a bane of my life. People leave unlabelled items about and expect someone else to clear them up.
If you cannot get a sensible response treat it as very hazardous and get it disposed of as that (Toxic etc). It will cost but trying to open up tubes and trying to get analysed is not a good idea. There are some substances that are very hazardous (could be radioactive even) and it is possible (based on the limited facts you have given us) that it is one of those.
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A Kurdziel wrote:Without any information it is impossible to establish what they are. DO NOT OPEN THEM UP.
They look like ampoules but it is not clear what they contain. As the glass is orange it could be ampoules of drugs. But is could also be a solution of vitamin A!
Can you find out who sent it out? If you do, explain to them in words of one syllable where they have gone wrong.
This a bane of my life. People leave unlabelled items about and expect someone else to clear them up.
If you cannot get a sensible response treat it as very hazardous and get it disposed of as that (Toxic etc). It will cost but trying to open up tubes and trying to get analysed is not a good idea. There are some substances that are very hazardous (could be radioactive even) and it is possible (based on the limited facts you have given us) that it is one of those.
Thanks for your comments. You have all the information I have except I can tell you the glass is clear and the liquid is the orangy colour which is accurately represented on my screen when I look at the photo. Quite clearly I am not going open them up - and if I do I won't taste the contents!!! I have spammed the business with the same photo but no-one has owned up in the last couple of hours. The repository is available to all, including any contractors.
As in my original post; I will dispose of them via our haz waste collector but they will have the same information as you - just a photo. I'll see what they have to say.
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They may not take them without you identifying the contents and assigning the correct EWC code. I don't think there is a code for don't know.
Sorry
Chris
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Sorry European Waste Catalogue = EWC
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I was going to say resin too - so not much help.
In view of the "dead end" you seem to be going down, have you thought of contacting any glass manufacturers - may be able to tell you something along the lines of we make something similiar for "X" who fill it with "Y".
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I can't believe it's got to the 12th response on a Friday and no-one has suggested I 'phial' a complaint. I guess you are all taking it seriously and I do appreciate that.
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If you send one of them to a lab to analyse then you only have 3 left!
Just find 3 other labs.
Job done
Sorry could not resist. But to get rid of it you will have to find out what it is. If you can find out who put it in the bin, you may find out where the clear out was from and you never know the box or other packaging may still be around or even a label on the door to the cupboard. All you have to do is get someone to own up.
Chris
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Bump. Just bumped to bring to the attention of the Monday browsers. No news over the weekend.
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Could they be air sampling chemicals? They are similar to older hand pump testing vials. No markings which is unusual so maybe not.
From you groups and area you're not that far from portion down, chemical analysis may be available through them - but it would cost.
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Unfortunately not able to access the photos but I would conclude the following from what has been said: -
Probably fairly obvious to say they were dumped because the person who had them also didn't know what was in them...
Only items I used matching the description were ampoules of concentrated chemicals that you emptied and rinsed into a volumetric flask to make up a solution of known dilution for various analyses, such as pH buffers.
Part of me was thinking radioactive sources for "bombing" welds, but I would have thought those sorts of sources would be solid.
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