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pl53  
#1 Posted : 29 January 2014 07:43:24(UTC)
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pl53

Just a quick question. I work with an engineering manager who insists that working with MEWPs can only be done if the immediate area around the MEWP is barriered off to a minimum of 1.5 times the possible fall radius of the MEWP ie if the height is 6m the exclusion zone should be 9m. I can find no reference to this requirement in any IPAF guidance nor any legal basis for it. Has anybody come across this requirement before because to me it seems to be quite arbitrary and unnecessary for a MEWP operating on firm, level ground.
Frank Hallett  
#2 Posted : 29 January 2014 11:30:39(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

Good morning PL53 From the info provided, it would appear that your Engineering manager has done a RA and identified that he wants that dimension for his exclusion zone. Whether it's actually practicable is a different question that will depend on so many other, unidentified to us, criteria. Anyway, what's the problem with an exclusion zone of 1.5 x the height of the MEWP? Frank Hallett
hilary  
#3 Posted : 29 January 2014 11:43:15(UTC)
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hilary

I wouldn't have an issue with this - items dropped from MEWPs could bounce and transport themselves quite a distance. He has obviously taken this in account and is acting safely. Don't knock it if you have someone who DOES take it seriously.
pl53  
#4 Posted : 29 January 2014 12:41:50(UTC)
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pl53

I'm not knocking him for anything, least of all taking H&S seriously. However we are working in the real world, something that a lot of people tend to forget. Following a bit of research the 1.5 "rule" seems to be based on IPAF guidance and relates to the risk of overturning, not falling objects. n my view that risk is minimal on firm level ground in an internal area. a smaller cordon seems to me to be much more practical. That said could anyone confirm that this is IPAF based.
RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 29 January 2014 13:15:22(UTC)
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RayRapp

As a rule it is either down to the MEWP operator or banksman to decide the exclusion zone radius, which may be dependant on the available working area. In a railway environment the banksman is replaced by a Machine Controller, again the size of the exclusion will be solely down to him.
Joebaxil  
#6 Posted : 29 January 2014 14:23:58(UTC)
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Joebaxil

We often have up to 5 or more MEWPs working in proximity . welders , steel erectors , cladders all needing to work to program ( real world ). My view is the need for very strong cooperation , coordination & competent personnel. Yes collapsed radiuses would be at the forefront when overheads or railway lines are a possible hazard certainly. In fact in a lot of ways working in these environments are a lot simpler to manage and control.
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