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Just curious I know they pretty much have the same powers as the HSE and have one paying me a visit next week, just wondered if they could issue FFI's too.
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Quick answer is No. HSE only.
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It's a worry for if it ever did come in for LA,s to have this power. It would completely contradict the Primary Authority Partnersip approach.
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EHOs do not want to go down the FFI route. However, if FFI is seen by the government and/or some local authorities as successful who knows what will happening he future?
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I believe that HSE did not want FFI either.
Be afraid... very afraid!
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The FFI principle is the future folks - get used to it!
Personally, I think that it's long past time that those who transgress should have to pay for the assistance provided by the enforcer in attaining an acceptable standard. Alternatively, they should be forced to gain equally competent commercial advice and implement it properly.
That concept makes FFI look considerably cheaper when set against the rates that I and other consultants have to apply to get a living!!
Why should those who get it wrong be subsidised by all those who don't?
The only real argument is at what level the FFI should "kick-in" and how to provide a better working definition of a "Material Breach"!
There, that's enough to run for a week!
Frank Hallett
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rather than FFI, the enforcement authorities already had powers to issue "improvement notices" . THe aspect of materila breach flies in the face of objective HS legislation ( despite the increased prescription creeping in). I am sure that one can find a material breach in almost any organisation--and if anecdotal information is to be believed, it is not ranked against risk.
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Jay writes: " if anecdotal information is to be believed, it is not ranked against risk. "...
Real life example... Letter from HSE to a client includes "'In the matters of heat, exposure to hazardous substances and fire and explosion risk, in the opinion of HSE Specialists, there are no significant health and safety risks within the workplace...."
All good so far. The letter then goes on
"... in particular the DSEAR requirements constititute material breaches ... blah blah blah." Basically no sheet of paper setting out a formal DSEAR assessment for a material subsequently shown to have no significant risk of explosion.... (The business HAD an assessment - but it couldn't be found on the (second!) day of the HSE visit.)
So FFI due kerching kerching!
This sort of thing brings HSE into disrepute and seriously damages the (formerly!) excellent relationship this client business and its managers had with the enforcer.
If EHOs get the power - watch out!
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