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Bill6152  
#1 Posted : 14 February 2014 09:29:28(UTC)
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Bill6152

Hi, just want to get an idea what others use as benchmark for lost time accidents? Do you use any lost time from a very short time say under 10 minutes, to a few hours, or complete shift as lost time. For example someone cut finger , small cut cleaned and plaster applied and only 15 minutes lost time, would you still class this as a lost time accident? Just interested to se what others use to quantify lost time?

Many Thanks
Andrew W Walker  
#2 Posted : 14 February 2014 09:32:55(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

Lost time here is classed as any time off after the day of the incident. So if the sit in a&e for half a day then come back to work the following day- we don't class it as lost time.

Andy
pl53  
#3 Posted : 14 February 2014 09:35:12(UTC)
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pl53

Most places where I have worked class a lost time accident as one where a colleague has had a full shift off work as a result of the accident. So if Fred clocks on at work and within the first few minutes has an accident and goes off work it would only become a lost time accident if he had the following day off as well, ie a full shift. As I said that seems to be pretty much the standard approach in all of the places I have worked, but I'm sure there must be other definitions used elsewhere.
Frank Hallett  
#4 Posted : 14 February 2014 10:01:24(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

Basically, You decide what the criteria are Bill!

What are the corporately defined reasons for collecting the data in the first place?

How detailed do you wish to be?

What do you do about ill-health?

There is some guidance on the HSE website but it's so general that it's not really any help to you in this instance.

Taking the term in the strictest sense - a LTA could mean any absence from, or inability to do the work employed for, for any time as long as the absence is caused by a physical injury as a result of the work.

Frank Hallett
stuie  
#5 Posted : 14 February 2014 14:08:09(UTC)
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stuie

We are in line with the other posts - day off the day after the accident = lost time.
CarlT  
#6 Posted : 14 February 2014 16:41:36(UTC)
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CarlT

We actually started including some lost time incidents that occurred within the first hour of the shift if the IP was absent for the remainder of the day as this put more pressure on their Depot Manager to ensure it was a genuine incident and not something that happened at the weekend or at football training etc.
(Calculations for depot bonuses included a figure for LTIs)
Canopener  
#7 Posted : 14 February 2014 18:05:25(UTC)
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Canopener

The various answers you will get is a good indication of why using such stats as a 'benchmark' or KPI/PI is something of a lost cause; the likelihood is that you'll be comparing apples with pears!
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