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Kay  
#1 Posted : 21 February 2014 12:09:31(UTC)
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Kay

Hi Has anyone come across a generic fatigue risk assessment please? I'm having trouble knowing where to start. also not sure if it's even possible to do a generic one that would serve any useful purpose... Thanks
andybz  
#2 Posted : 21 February 2014 12:49:22(UTC)
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andybz

There is information at http://www.hse.gov.uk/hu...ctors/topics/fatigue.htm However, this is mostly related to shift work. Not sure if that is the issue or other causes of fatigue.
Roberts900291  
#3 Posted : 21 February 2014 13:07:29(UTC)
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Roberts900291

Frank Hallett  
#4 Posted : 21 February 2014 13:14:42(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

There are a considerable number of types of fatigue Kay. Are we considering physical fatigue that arises from physical activity; mental fatigue that arises from high concentration; mental fatigue that arises from boredom [even though the task is safety critical - ie pilot]; or some other aspect of fatigue? There is a considerable amount of fairly recent [within 12 months] of info on the HSE website. Just search for fatigue!! Frank Hallett
Kay  
#5 Posted : 21 February 2014 13:55:10(UTC)
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Kay

Thanks All. It's for an audit. Generally I would consider fatigue as part of the overall Risk Assessment for an activity, but this requirement seems to be for a RA just for fatigue which I'm struggling to get my head around! How can it be done without considering the particulars of an activity? I'm guessing it would need to cover all types of fatigue which is further complicating things for me.... And I've already looked on the HSE website - god knows where to start with that lot!
Frank Hallett  
#6 Posted : 21 February 2014 14:13:51(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

So Kay - who actually devised the "Audit"? Perhaps it would help if they could provide some input into what they thought they were asking for? Otherwise, this is just another of those "how long is a piece of string?" questions - it means whatever you want it to mean!! You didn't get this Audit given today [Friday} did you? Frank Hallett
Kay  
#7 Posted : 21 February 2014 14:25:54(UTC)
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Kay

Hello again It's a Link-Up audit. At the risk of further complicating things: The Auditor should establish that general arrangements shall include:  identifying the activities and tasks in the organisation and supplier’s organisations where fatigue could result in impaired performance and increased operating risk;  carrying out fatigue risk assessments (FRI). HSE’s FRI or similar may be utilised  the working time limits that workers shall be permitted to work;*  planning work so that exceedances are not required;  authorising unforeseen exceedances (inc. risk assessments);  monitoring actual hours worked;  analysing trends in hours worked (including travel time) and correlating this with error and incident data, skill availability and sickness/absence data and taking appropriate action in the light of identified patterns and trends;  plans and objectives for controlling actual hours;  plans and objectives for reducing unforeseen exceedances (if applicable);  arrangements to prevent workers from carrying out or continuing to carry out work activities where there is reason to believe they are unfit due to fatigue;  assessment of what fatigue arrangements are appropriate for their staff including compliance with ROGS. Note *: Suppliers shall take note of the general duty of care with regard to the planning and control of the combination of individual employee’s work, walking time, handover/wash-up time and travel time. Note **: This standard outlines the requirements for managing fatigue and working hours and demonstrates the means by which compliance with Regulation 25 of the ‘Rail and Other Guided Transport Systems (Safety) Regulations 2006’ is realised.
bob youel  
#8 Posted : 22 February 2014 09:13:56(UTC)
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bob youel

I thought that 'fatigue' risk assessments were standard practice
Frank Hallett  
#9 Posted : 22 February 2014 10:25:05(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

From your later post Kay it appears that you may have answered much of your own question! There is still a lack of overall context to guide us, but the last **Note does provide a clue, and there is explicit Guidance available from the ORR on what an acceptable FRA would address for that topic. Who on earth thought that "exceedances" is a real word? Frank Hallett
westonphil  
#10 Posted : 22 February 2014 13:24:00(UTC)
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westonphil

Frank Hallett wrote:
Who on earth thought that "exceedances" is a real word?
If we take the English language as an example a large number of the words we use are imported from other languages. Also many 'new' words are added to our dictionaries each year because they are used in society and that really is the key point. It is society which decides what are the real words or not; dictionaries just play catch up. Exceedances is used quite a lot and therefore society has decided it is a real word. Regards.
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