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There have been threads on here about whether it is wise or necessary to train staff to recover people from lifts that get stuck (or whether to wait for the professional lift engineers...). Article in todays news may put the discussion in to focus: http://www.bbc.co.uk/new...burgh-east-fife-26344369Steve
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I think if anything this demonstrates that if you are to use your own staff to carry out lift releases you must be able to demonstrate that they have received training.
I don’t think this case sets a precedent that your own staff cannot carry out this task.
On my campus we had over 40 lifts operating 24/7 and it was simply impracticable to rely on the lift company or the fire brigade.
All staff who would carry out releases were trained and only those staff had access to the release keys
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I guess you could argue that lifts come under the confined space regulations also
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matelot1965 wrote:I guess you could argue that lifts come under the confined space regulations also You could indeed argue that but I doubt that you will find many to accept your argument. The Regs are quite clear on "reasonably foreseeable specified risk", none of which are likely to be present in many lifts.
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Matelot & David B - whilst a lift may not normally be considered as a CS, the sump or well at the base of any lift shaft should certainly be considered as a potentially hazardous CS.
Other than that, I would suport Johnld's view.
Frank Hallett
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David Bannister wrote:matelot1965 wrote:I guess you could argue that lifts come under the confined space regulations also You could indeed argue that but I doubt that you will find many to accept your argument. The Regs are quite clear on "reasonably foreseeable specified risk", none of which are likely to be present in many lifts. Hows about this reasonably foreseeable specified risk if you are trapped in a lift the loss of consciousness of any person at work arising from an increase in body temperature
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matelot1965 wrote:
Hows about this reasonably foreseeable specified risk if you are trapped in a lift the loss of consciousness of any person at work arising from an increase in body temperature
It's not reasonably foreseeable. Even if trapped in a lift for a considerable length of time, it's not going to get dangerously hot in there.
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