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Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#1 Posted : 27 February 2014 16:04:26(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

From out of the last external audit it was recommended to include storm damage on the Aspect / Impact under 'Emergency Conditions'.
Aspect - I have:
Storm damage & other change effects on the company
For the impact I have covered so far:
Building damage – Roof.
Severe hailstorm causes buckles to roofing allowing rainwater to seep in.
• Office extension
• Compressor house

• Deliveries delayed
For the Relevance to the company I have covered so far:
Partial operational impairment through loss of I.T. and / or compressor equipment through water damage. Building fabric damaged.
Power loss either as a result of storm damage to building or local national network

Production output reduced / stopped.


Q. What if anything else should be covered bearing in mind we have no external operations bar incoming deliveries which I have tried to cover.
As this was an off the wall suggestion it's not one my mind can register at present. Has anyone covered similar in their EMS? Any suggestions appreciated.

Badger
Frank Hallett  
#2 Posted : 27 February 2014 16:35:23(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

May I suggest BS25999 - Business Continuity as a good source of a wide range of topics that could be considered.

Frank Hallett
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#3 Posted : 27 February 2014 16:51:32(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Thanks for that suggestion Frank. Unfortunately that standard has now been withdrawn and we do not have a copy unless you PDF relevant parts to me?

Badger
Frank Hallett  
#4 Posted : 27 February 2014 17:55:07(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

BSI Copyright rules and their application are punitive to say the least Barrie.

May I suggest that you acquire a copy of its replacement - BS ISO 22313:2012 by giving BSI or alternative provider some money!

Frank Hallett
PIKEMAN  
#5 Posted : 28 February 2014 08:17:08(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

Personally I would say that aspect here is - extreme weather and the impact(s) - the damage to the building etc. However, this is surely impacts BY the environment and not impacts ON the environment and would fit better with general emergency planning, not an environmental aspects and impacts register? As someone who has audited 14001 for clients I would question this logic.
kevkel  
#6 Posted : 28 February 2014 09:09:12(UTC)
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kevkel

Barrie,
I think Frank is correct. Why not complete a Business Continuity Plan and account for each event. the BCP can be staged to cover % loss of businness function and identify what steps are in place to address this loss in the short/long term. We do this for environmmental, clinical, financial and operational factors. Insurers will be pleased also!
Kevin
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#7 Posted : 28 February 2014 10:06:07(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Thanks to Pikeman and Kevkel for your comments.
As indicated the suggestion to include 'Emergency Conditions' within the EMS was a curve ball to me so will go back and question what has been placed as an improvement to our documentation.

Badger
chris42  
#8 Posted : 28 February 2014 10:59:31(UTC)
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chris42

For an EMS I would agree with Pikeman

I would consider how storm damage at my place of work could affect the environment due to unintended release of harmful products. Your IT system going down does not harm the environment. I can see that this would affect say ISo9001, where an interruption in your business could affect customer expectations (they don’t get their stuff on time).

So I may consider an oil bund filling with rain water quicker than it would normally, or possibly a storm taking down a storage shed full of chemicals etc. The same sort of way you would consider where the water run off from the fire brigade putting out a fire of hazardous materials would go.

I think you need to check the wording on the NC and contact the auditor if it is about business continuity and not the environment.

Chris
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