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stonecold  
#1 Posted : 07 March 2014 09:44:38(UTC)
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stonecold

Does anyone know which country has the lowest reported work related accident rate?
jay  
#2 Posted : 07 March 2014 11:46:15(UTC)
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jay

ILO Database:- Rate of fatal occupational injury by sex and economic activity (%) http://www.ilo.org/ilost...rl-state%3Dijqzhzwrv_182 ILO-Database- rate of non-fatal occupational injury (with lost workdays) by sex and economic activity (%) http://www.ilo.org/ilost...rl-state%3Dijqzhzwrv_114 The European comparision is at:- http://www.hse.gov.uk/st...tics/european/table1.xls
JJ Prendergast  
#3 Posted : 07 March 2014 11:46:30(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

I would make a guess at North Korea. Everything is perfect there, so there must be no accidents?
stonecold  
#4 Posted : 07 March 2014 11:51:23(UTC)
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stonecold

thanks very much
DaveDowan  
#5 Posted : 07 March 2014 11:59:14(UTC)
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DaveDowan

Try this Journal of Safety Research 40 (2009) 125–139 regards Dave
Canopener  
#6 Posted : 07 March 2014 12:53:15(UTC)
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Canopener

A slight digression I admit, but I watched a programme the other night on the railway system in India. It was genuinely fascinating viewing (or I really am becoming an old saddo!). The programme reported that they have in excess of 3000 deaths per year on the system; these are generally passengers jumping on/off/falling from the trains or simply crossing the lines instead of using the foot bridges etc. It’s a big country, but………………………. Clearly not the safest country!
peter gotch  
#7 Posted : 07 March 2014 15:08:00(UTC)
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peter gotch

Well spotted Jay. It's not the European comparison table that HSE usually highlights which conveniently hides the fact that we don't count road traffic accidents, thence making us look much better than those (most others) who do.
David Bannister  
#8 Posted : 07 March 2014 17:21:22(UTC)
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David Bannister

Canopener, 3000 deaths out of a 1 billion population in India is around 0.0003% if my maths is right. For a UK population of 65M the same rate would equate to 195 railway deaths. A very quick search suggested 239 UK deaths on the railways on 2010/11 (inc 208 suicides). However, I'm not for 1 minute suggesting that India's rail safety regime could not be better.
jay  
#9 Posted : 07 March 2014 17:38:28(UTC)
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jay

Yes, Public Safety in India, including transportation safety, especially road & rail safety is a huge issue. There is lack of political will and the Railways Ministry has its own budget set in addition to the budget by the Finance ministry. It is also complicated by India having- a coalition government since 1989--and coalitions formed by very opposing idealogies therefore difficult to get funding unless there is private financing-irrespective whther from Inda or International. It is likely to be "political suicide" to increase passenger fares--a catch 22 situation. Even a moderate increase in fares was pushed back http://timesofindia.indi...12318153.cms?referral=PM a federal structure where land aquisition, law and order are state subjects etc Trade Unions are not constructive There was a Report by a "High Level Safety Review Committee" for the Indian Railways Board in February 2012 http://www.indianrailway...-BOOK-HLSRC%20latest.pdf Some highlights from the report:- The financial state of Indian Railways is at the brink of collapse ........... Passenger fares have not been increased in the last decade during which many passenger carrying trains were introduced on the existing overloaded infrastructure. This has strained the infrastructure way beyond its limit and all the safety margins have been eaten up pushing Indian Railways to a regime of adhocism in infrastructure maintenance. There is no practice of independent safety regulation by an independent agency separate from operations. Research Design and Standards Organization (RDSO) which is the present apex technical wing of Indian Railways is highly constrained due to several reasons. This has hampered the ability of the system to internalize new emerging technologies and indigenous development has not progressed consistent with today’s needs. to adopt an advanced signaling system based on continuous track circuiting and cab signaling similar to European train control system Level-II on the entire trunk routes of about 19000 route kilometers at an estimated cost of INR 200 000 000 000 within 5 years. ( 1 Pound Stg =100 INR) total elimination of all level crossings (manned and unmanned) within 5 years at an estimated cost of INR 500 000 000 000 crores which will get recovered over 7-8 years due to saving in operation and maintenance costs and mproved train operation. to stop production of Oil Intergal Coah Factory (ICF) design coaches and completely switch over to manufacture of Linke-Hoffmann-Busch (Modern Indian Railway Coach-LHB) design coaches immediately. LHB is now part of Alstom LHB GmbH
imwaldra  
#10 Posted : 08 March 2014 13:03:03(UTC)
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imwaldra

A digression I know, but the TV programme was actually about Mumbai railways only, not the whole of India - so the rate is much higher than calculated above, even though Mumbai is a huge city.
Canopener  
#11 Posted : 10 March 2014 12:26:48(UTC)
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Canopener

I think that the responsibility for the digression rests with me (sorry to all) and yes, you are correct the programme was about the Mumbai railway only, which I guess helps lend a sense of perspective to my earlier post. I have to say that I found it absolutely compelling viewing and hardly blinked for the hour (of course I did, but you get the gist?!). Now, how about Top Gear in Burma?!
colinreeves  
#12 Posted : 11 March 2014 13:34:29(UTC)
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colinreeves

Canopener wrote:
Now, how about Top Gear in Burma?!
<snore>
sutty  
#13 Posted : 11 March 2014 13:47:45(UTC)
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sutty

David Bannister wrote:
Canopener, 3000 deaths out of a 1 billion population in India is around 0.0003% if my maths is right. For a UK population of 65M the same rate would equate to 195 railway deaths. A very quick search suggested 239 UK deaths on the railways on 2010/11 (inc 208 suicides). However, I'm not for 1 minute suggesting that India's rail safety regime could not be better.
Are suicides classed as work related?? I suppose if the cause is fully look into they may be but it's hard to consider these are work related deaths surely?
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