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yulkok  
#1 Posted : 12 March 2014 13:02:52(UTC)
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yulkok

Watching a programme on the TV last night about planning appeals (sad I know) but was surprised/saddened by the lack of controls for working at height by some builders despite the cameras rolling. No wonder working at height can be such a killer. Regards Yul
Graham Bullough  
#2 Posted : 13 March 2014 14:31:09(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Yul In a bid to answer your title question I guess that people being filmed for TV documentaries tend after a while to become accustomed to the presence of the cameras and microphones and forget that whatever they say and do could end up being broadcast to millions of people. A few years ago my former employer, a local authority, was asked by a company if it could shadow some of its environmental health officers and also its team of internal OS&H advisers for a documentary. My recollection is that the authority's public relations specialists advised against this for the above reason. Also, they advised that individuals and organisations who opt to allow filming usually have no control whatsoever about what is ultimately broadcast on TV or in what context. On a related note, I'm sometimes surprised at the tone and/or content of some postings on this forum and guess that those involved forget that it's a public discussion forum potentially open for viewing by anyone in the world with internet access. This was the reason behind my pleas some time ago for a brief and visible disclaimer to be reinstated on the thread listings page.
godscrasher  
#3 Posted : 14 March 2014 17:12:20(UTC)
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godscrasher

You should watch Grand Designs. Some of the standards are well below par and I 'gasp' and 'cringe' at some stuff. Still - It's good viewing.
Zimmy  
#4 Posted : 14 March 2014 17:57:51(UTC)
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Zimmy

Sara Beeeeeeny is another. I emailed the show a few times for a giggle but no reply!!! If it's on TV it must be OK to do it then? What chance have we got? Maybe someone form IOSH should ask to use one of the shows to show the country where they are going wrong? Thake a long hard look at the electrical work.... I wonder where Part P and the electrical inspectors are...??? Heads stuck right up a cool-dark-place no doubt. This may be pulled as too close to the truth for some people with connections I dare say!
chris42  
#5 Posted : 15 March 2014 12:39:27(UTC)
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chris42

Yes but if you watch the action films where the bad guy / Gal is breaking into something with a Jack hammer or thermic lance etc they have all the PPE on ! Gloves, goggles, leather aprons, hard hats, the lot (ok maybe not always high Vis). Makes me giggle every time, crooks, villains and thieves are obviously more concerned with their own safety. They wear the stuff with no SOP, RA, Supervision, company procedure, Management system, disciplinary procedure, H&S Manager or Law / ACOP / Guidance covering their activity. There is obviously a moral here somewhere just not sure what it is. You just know you will be thinking about this next time you watch the Italian Job.
CarlT  
#6 Posted : 15 March 2014 19:28:16(UTC)
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CarlT

In a similar vein I was cringing when I was watching a program about restoring a river boat a couple of days ago. The guy was standing on a narrow gunwale with nothing to stop him falling backwards onto bits of steel and wooden sleepers or pitching forwards into the boat, all the while trying to jiggle a large window panel into place and narating at the same time. Of course I was unable to not say anything only to have her indoors complain that yet again health and safety has ruined her tv watching.
RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 17 March 2014 12:23:24(UTC)
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RayRapp

I think you will find it is not just specific to TV programs but in many other environments where there is a lack of supervision, procedures and proper equipment. Last Friday I visited my local hospital with my wife and waited while a handy man fitted a new diffuser to a suspended ceiling. He did this using a step ladder and never was there at any time 3 points of contact. I bet if I had asked him what is 3 points of contact he would not have a clue! The reality is outside a commercial environment there are many practices which would not be allowed or tolerated. Walk past any small building works or refurbishment and you will see all sorts of nonsense going on. When challenged these guys claim that health and safety has gone OTT. Sadly on many counts I can't disagree with them - hey, ho.
Salis  
#8 Posted : 20 March 2014 15:43:33(UTC)
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Salis

Ooooh three points of contact, very topical.
Animax01  
#9 Posted : 21 March 2014 09:34:42(UTC)
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Animax01

I have noticed that the car restoration programme "wheeler dealers" has become very safety concious. You will quite often see the use of safety glasses, nitrile gloves and hearing defenders. Having watched this programme for a number of years, I can say that it hasn't always been this way. Nothing OTT, just simple measures to protect the operator. A nice sensible approach.
L McCartney  
#10 Posted : 24 March 2014 15:38:11(UTC)
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L McCartney

It's when mum and dad have hard hats on when in the shell of a building but baby has no protection at all!
BernieGale123  
#11 Posted : 24 March 2014 15:50:33(UTC)
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BernieGale123

I guess we should all be pleased that television shows do reflect real life and provide us all with a golden opportunity to practice risk assessments on tasks we may not be so familiar with. If you have every seen any of the budget Amercian DIY programmes the reverse is true. Gloves, goggles and hard hat while using a screwdriver.............well almost!! I have known the HSE has taken an interest a couple of times but its very rare
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