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DP  
#1 Posted : 20 March 2014 08:10:38(UTC)
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DP

Morning,

Other than duties laid out in RIDDOR with regards reporting Asbestos related 'release of fibres' Are there any other set of regulations that places a duty to report such matters.

I'm sure there are not but checking with readers / posters?
Steve e ashton  
#2 Posted : 20 March 2014 12:54:41(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

DP: Not quite sure where you're coming from on this one - but I'm fairly sure (stand to be corrected) that RIDDOR does not explicitly mention Asbestos... However "The unintentional release or escape of any substance which could cause personal injury to any person other than through the combustion of flammable liquids or gases. " is one of the scheduled 'dangerous occurrences' (not offshore).... So I will leave it to others to argue whether any release of Asbestos fibres is always reportable. (Very poor - awful - drafting of legal standards as is perhaps to be expected these days)

But there are other regulations which require some things to be reported to HSE (NOT under RIDDOR)... They include things like LOLER examinations that identify serious defects. And others... If this is where the query is directed, then you may need to re-think your assumptions?
DP  
#3 Posted : 20 March 2014 13:04:10(UTC)
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DP

Thanks for the response Steve,

Hence me asking - this question is specific to ACM's and 'unintentional release' I'm excepting current guidance (in RIDDOR) is to include ACM's - but vague is an 'understatement' given how much of the stuff is out there and the potential for disturbance across many sectors and industries.

That's why I've put it to the forum for any guidance.

I was hoping for something a little clearer to be honest!!
wjp62  
#4 Posted : 20 March 2014 14:09:33(UTC)
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wjp62

From the HSE website:
2. Incidents occurring at any place other than an offshore workplace
Hazardous escapes of substances
27 The unintentional release or escape of any substance which could cause personal injury to any person other than through the combustion of flammable liquids or gases.

The substances covered by this definition may be in any form: liquid, solid (eg powder), gaseous or vapour and may include, eg:
substances which may be hazardous to health (eg asbestos, phosgene, toluene diisocyanate)
substances which may be either corrosive or potentially hazardous by virtue of their temperature or pressure (eg nitric acid, molten metal, liquid nitrogen)

This definition includes incidents which present a fire or explosion hazard (eg combustible powders), but not in relation to releases of flammable liquids or gases, where the relevant thresholds in 26 [link to paragraph 26] are not exceeded.

Examples of the kinds of incident covered by the definition are escapes arising from the failure or breakage of plant, pipes, equipment or apparatus; failures of process control; the operation of a relief valve or bursting disc where the escaping substance is not safely controlled or directed, and spillages from containers and equipment.

Releases from plant etc during the normal course of operation or maintenance (eg during sampling, packaging or draining of lines) that are sufficiently well controlled to ensure that no person is put at risk would not be reportable.

In some cases, the decision as to whether or not an incident is reportable will be straightforward, eg if a person is exposed to a hazardous substance at a level which exceeds established safe limits (eg a Workplace Exposure Limit).

However, most incidents require judgement. Various factors are relevant including: the nature of the substance and its chemical, physical and toxicological properties, the amount which escaped and its dispersal, and whether people were, or could foreseeably have been, exposed to a significant risk as a consequence of the escape.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/ri...dangerous-occurences.htm
DP  
#5 Posted : 20 March 2014 15:05:40(UTC)
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DP

Thanks Racer.

Matter closed. Just had an update

For info:

We had a break in over the weekend and 'trace asbestos materials' were disturbed during the deed.

On identification of the area the manager closed the area off as per policy called in maintenance. Who in turn called in our Asbestos Contractors they did air monitoring and found nothing air-bourn - they did a clean up and removed anything which could have been possibly contaminated where debris had settled. Reinstated the area as safe.

Due to the circumstances the Asbestos experts advise none reportable due to the monitoring and exposure limits identified - for completeness I ran this by our Primary Authority Partners - they agreed. Investigation undertaken circumstances detailed and recorded.

Police and police forensics have been notified if they find the culprit to advise of the circumstances.

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