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9Yally  
#1 Posted : 14 April 2014 14:55:57(UTC)
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9Yally


I am currently looking for a new position and have found the market very tough and frustrating, making it into two final interviews etc.

However, I am due to become charted in May and was interested to hear peoples opinions on any new opportunities that becoming chartered brings.

Did you notice an increase in interest from recruitment agencies etc.



DP  
#2 Posted : 14 April 2014 17:58:33(UTC)
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DP

I personally do and it represents a professional level achieved and like everything else similar most respected by the persons who have achieved it - that will be most posters on here I feel.

However, I sit on a couple of retail safety groups with quite a few national retailers and this very topic was an agenda item last year and I was quite surprised to find that it was not as respected in the industry as I thought it was.

Some attended were quite vitriolic about CMIOSH. and IOSH membership in general.

In the job market its not the be-and-end all as experience will always be the main advantage.

chris.packham  
#3 Posted : 14 April 2014 19:42:56(UTC)
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chris.packham

I think it depends what you are offering. I am not chartered, nor even a full member of IOSH. This is simply because I am highly specialised in what I do. For me to become a full member and chartered would involve me in considerable expense and time learning about aspects of health and safety that are irrelevant to what I have specialised in. In fact I have even found that not being a chartered member, i.e. perceived as a generalist, but a specialist has counted in my favour. Unfortunately, in contrast with other organisations (BOHS, IIRSM, for example) IOSH does not appear to recognise that not everyone wishes to be a general health and safety practitioner.
Stedman  
#4 Posted : 15 April 2014 08:13:51(UTC)
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Stedman

chris.packham wrote:
I think it depends what you are offering. I am not chartered, nor even a full member of IOSH. This is simply because I am highly specialised in what I do. For me to become a full member and chartered would involve me in considerable expense and time learning about aspects of health and safety that are irrelevant to what I have specialised in. In fact I have even found that not being a chartered member, i.e. perceived as a generalist, but a specialist has counted in my favour. Unfortunately, in contrast with other organisations (BOHS, IIRSM, for example) IOSH does not appear to recognise that not everyone wishes to be a general health and safety practitioner.


Chris,

I am also a specialist, but I am also a Chartered Member. Is IOSH the wrong professional body for you?
SP900308  
#5 Posted : 15 April 2014 11:55:09(UTC)
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SP900308

9Yally, I have met a few CMIOSH peeps that I wouldn't touch with a barge pole. On the flip side, I've also met a number of NEBOSH Cert level peeps (TechIOSH or not as the case may be) that have a sound knowledge of H&S!

CMIOSH does not guarantee excellence in our field, which is vast (and much discussed).

I'd also say that CMIOSH may get someone to an interview but, there's an awful lot more to winning over an employer that a nice sticky label.

Good luck
Jake  
#6 Posted : 15 April 2014 13:32:11(UTC)
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Jake

It depends on the hiring manager, but overall I would say it helps in securing an interview, nothing more (adverts usually say "CMIOSH or equivalent" if CMIOSH is going to be mentioned.

I've noted 3 camps of people and their reactions to CMIOSH seem to be consistent:
- Those hiring managers who are professionally involved in H&S and see the value of IOSH / chartership/professional development in general - having CMIOSH will be a clear advantage over candidates who do not
- Those hiring managers who are professionally involved in H&S and do not see the value of IOSH / chartership (there are more of these than you may think)- having CMIOSH will be of little benefit
- Those hiring managers who have little/nothing to do with H&S - in my experience having CMIOSH does help, as they see it as competency and often don't care to get into the whys and what not’s of what it means, they will take it at face value that you are "good".

The hiring manage for my current role sits in the last camp I describe, my previous employer in the first.
theophilussc  
#7 Posted : 15 April 2014 15:13:16(UTC)
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theophilussc

Hi All,
I work for a would be training provider and we are looking for consultants who will help with developing IOSH Managing Safely folder and power point for our IOSH accreditation. We also hope to get these consultants aboard for the accreditation and to be our trainers.
I would appreciate any help, link or interests.

many thanks

rockybalboa  
#8 Posted : 15 April 2014 15:45:03(UTC)
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rockybalboa

haha one, did you just jack a thread, that's kind of bad etiquette to steal someone's thread and change the subject, I may be missing something here and
two, what are you asking for? Please re-word it, maybe again I'm missing something, can anyone else understand the post?
pl53  
#9 Posted : 15 April 2014 15:52:49(UTC)
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pl53

Looks like a job advert to me. Not in my neck of the woods though.
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