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boro  
#1 Posted : 23 May 2014 12:43:38(UTC)
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boro

Hi, We have had a fire risk assessment completed, we need to install some new emergency lighting to BS 5266 2005 and BS EN 1838 standards. Before i call an electrician in to quote can anybody point me in the right direction for fittings so i can get a ball park figure prior to receiving a quote. thanks in advance
mssy  
#2 Posted : 23 May 2014 17:14:28(UTC)
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mssy

Have a look here for same prices for internet supplied kit. This is bound to be cheaper than what electricians charge. But look at the Help Guide at the bottom of the page first Good luck http://www.safelincs.co....ergency-escape-lighting/ and a very informative booklet from Coopers http://www.cooper-ls.com...guide-emergency-lighting
mssy  
#3 Posted : 23 May 2014 17:15:32(UTC)
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mssy

I should add that I am not endorsing either of the above companies, its just they have good website for information
tony.  
#4 Posted : 23 May 2014 20:47:33(UTC)
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tony.

We fit these http://www.thornlighting...ency-lighting-luminaires The voyager led fitting, visually apealling and ticks the box! And other types of bulkheads that are constantly illuminated and some not.
paul.skyrme  
#5 Posted : 29 May 2014 19:25:32(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

mssy wrote:
Have a look here for same prices for internet supplied kit. This is bound to be cheaper than what electricians charge. ...
Of course it is, they don't have to supply a fitted warranty, which you would expect from your electrician, remember the manufacturers and suppliers will not reimburse the installer when their kit goes faulty within the warranty period, but, you will still expect it done for free. So why should the installing company not add a profit margin on to what they buy it for. They are not a charity, a business exists to make a profit, to pay it's overheads and grow. Business is business, if you are engaging the services of an installer, then accept their prices, or, buy the kit yourself on the internet, and, when it goes wrong, pay someone to come and replace the faulty bits, and make a claim for the charges on the supplier, good luck with that one by the way. Why are you so ANTI the electrician making a profit on the materials?
mssy  
#6 Posted : 30 May 2014 05:42:09(UTC)
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mssy

paul.skyrme wrote:
mssy wrote:
Have a look here for same prices for internet supplied kit. This is bound to be cheaper than what electricians charge. ...
Of course it is, they don't have to supply a fitted warranty, which you would expect from your electrician, remember the manufacturers and suppliers will not reimburse the installer when their kit goes faulty within the warranty period, but, you will still expect it done for free. So why should the installing company not add a profit margin on to what they buy it for. They are not a charity, a business exists to make a profit, to pay it's overheads and grow. Business is business, if you are engaging the services of an installer, then accept their prices, or, buy the kit yourself on the internet, and, when it goes wrong, pay someone to come and replace the faulty bits, and make a claim for the charges on the supplier, good luck with that one by the way. Why are you so ANTI the electrician making a profit on the materials?
Blimey! - wot an odd and rather angry question! I have no objection about anyone making a profit, but its simply about getting a good deal - that's all. Its why you get a couple of quotes before getting any building work done. It's why people are seduced by buy one get one free offers etc etc If I can source a bulkhead light at £30 that an electrician would charge £45 for, why wouldn't I? With your generous approach to spending, you must be a millionaire, or perhaps that Mrs Skymre does the family shopping? :)
firesafety101  
#7 Posted : 30 May 2014 09:35:17(UTC)
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firesafety101

Hey Paul calm down, its almost the weekend but you are right of course. Whatever happened to competent installers? Who will install your cheaper system? Who will provide the required testing of the system? I purchase all sorts from that well known internet shop but its all small stuff. Messy would you buy a fire door set off the internet? If you did who would you get to install, a joiner? If so would you ensure the joiner is qualified and competent to install a fire door set? We are talking about life safety here so please be careful what you buy and who you get to install. Notice I haven't mentioned money at all, there is no reason to cut costs where lives are concerned. Have a look at messy's post about the care home prosecution to see what can happen.
tony.  
#8 Posted : 30 May 2014 21:27:11(UTC)
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tony.

The problem with the customer supplying gear, is a large percentage of the time is its crap. For example em lighting, you buy lights and say install, you would probably be annoyed when the invoice for not just labour, but screws,rawl plugs, glands, cable, etc etc. Customers who supply crap and whinge about extra time to fit said crap. At least when it goes wrong the spark will be liable for everything
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