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MrsBlue  
#1 Posted : 12 June 2014 09:36:00(UTC)
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Morning all How would you expect a self employed or a company Fire Risk Assessor to quote to carry out a fire risk assessment? For example, would you expect them to do a pre-visit to the specific building to determine the scale of the assessment or would you expect them to just turn up and carry out the assessment (in other words on the hoof). I have quotes from several sources some of whom did a pre-visit whilst others just sent in what looks like a standard price. I did give a brief description of the buildings concerned. Over to you fire experts for your views. Cheers a bunch. Rich
JJ Prendergast  
#2 Posted : 12 June 2014 09:40:21(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

I don't do fire risk assessments in normal buildings, but as a general consultancy point I would do a pre-sales visit. This establishes the scope of the work (no hidden extras that may be a surpise, if you turn up with out a pre-survey) Having a basic look around allows the consultant to make an estimate of the time required to complete the assessment and the 'complexity' of the assessment. Seen too many consultants caught out by just turning up .....
JohnW  
#3 Posted : 12 June 2014 10:41:37(UTC)
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JohnW

As JJ notes, a pre-visit is useful to establish how complex the site is, so that a suitable and sufficient assessment can be done. I have turned up at a converted Victorian warehouse which had become a rabbit warren of staircases, partitions, balconies, offices, workshops, paint spray booths, numerous 'fire exits' (all locked!), lots of flammable solvents and combustible materials etc etc and the report could only be compiled adequately using photographic evidence, around 50 photographs. Doing the FRA report and cross-referencing to the photographs, uploading all the photos onto a webpage for convenience, and writing up the conclusions and recommendations, took as long as the on-site inspection, so I told them I'd be charging a whole day. Then there was the 'after' visit to see what had been implemented so that I could give them the assessment document that they wanted, saying they had taken suitable steps to comply with The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005, so they were charged another 1/2 day for that review. JohnW
leadbelly  
#4 Posted : 12 June 2014 10:57:38(UTC)
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leadbelly

I am an occupational hygienist as well as a safety consultant and will always do a scoping visit unless the quote is required by an existing client whose site I know well. As was said above, this reduces the chances of a 'surprise'. LB
MrsBlue  
#5 Posted : 12 June 2014 11:00:50(UTC)
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Thanks guys for the prompt replies. How much can I expect to pay for a competent person to carry out an FRA along the lines stated by John W above? This would be for a charity with limited funds - do you consultants ever give better (read cheaper) quotes for charities or are your quotes according to the complexity of the job and thus standard? Cheers Rich
JohnW  
#6 Posted : 12 June 2014 11:10:52(UTC)
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JohnW

I have only ever conducted FRA's for factories or building sites, quite complex, for which I would charge my normal hourly/daily rate. If your charity establishment was not complex and a one-off, not requiring much at-home write up, I'd probably do it for £30 and hour. JohnW
Safety Smurf  
#7 Posted : 12 June 2014 11:16:38(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Hi Rich, Are we talking about what looks like a small church on the south coast? I'd guess at visit time and write up to be about 8hrs max, so day rate. 1/2 day rate would be pushing it a bit.
MrsBlue  
#8 Posted : 12 June 2014 11:24:59(UTC)
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Yes we are talking about a deconsecrated small church on the South Coast. Would JohnW or Safety Smurf be interested in supplying quotes - if so please PM me. I presume this type of post is allowed? - please confirm Mr Moderator Thanks guys wait to hear from you. Rich
Safety Smurf  
#9 Posted : 12 June 2014 11:41:45(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Sorry Rich, I'm an in-house fire risk assessor so don't have any personal PL insurance.
MrsBlue  
#10 Posted : 12 June 2014 11:47:39(UTC)
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Thanks anyway Safety Smurf - and thanks for the info re: charges. Rich
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