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mootoppers  
#41 Posted : 13 June 2014 16:03:56(UTC)
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mootoppers

'they' being the police by the way!
Ron Hunter  
#42 Posted : 13 June 2014 16:36:01(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

TonyCSS wrote:
Ron Hunter wrote:
GPS or road-side data point speed-limiter control for all vehicles other than emergency vehicles. Immeidate ban for interference with these = No speeding, much improved emissions. While we're at it, can we ban these blarty "boy racer" exhausts and sound systems?
Hi Ron, Nice idea but yesterday while on my motorcycle I was overtaking an HGV on a dual carriageway. As I approached his blindspot, he indicated and moved into my lane, clearly having failed to see me. I accelerated and cleared the hazard before being crushed against the dividing barrier. I exceeded the speed limit (50) in order to avoid the contact. Technology is not the way forward. If the tech had kicked in and prevented the additional speed I would not be writing this post. Sometimes on the road it is not about who is right, t is about who is left!!
Fair point. We'd better add proximity sensor data to my proposal. Anyone know the current mandate for rearview mirrors on EU trucks? Are parabolics etc. mandatory. I see a lot of mirrors on some trucks, including "look down" mirrors to see pedestrians, etc. at the very front of the vehicle?
colinreeves  
#43 Posted : 16 June 2014 14:29:19(UTC)
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colinreeves

A number of people in this thread have been talking about speed limits as if they are not only correct, but cast in stone. However, one poster at least has argued the "clear non-busy motorway" argument, which was promptly argued against. However, even the Government have acknowleged that a single speed limit for a piece of road is not necessarily correct. In particular there are a number of motorways (and maybe other roads) where there are variable speed limits (put in place for traffic flow reasons generally0 but it does indicate that a speed limit is not necessarily always correct. If there was a way of having adjustable limits to suit the weather / time of day / visibility etc then this would be an improvement. What, there was???? Oh yes, the old traffic cop with discretion and not a mindless camers!
A Kurdziel  
#44 Posted : 16 June 2014 15:25:34(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

This seems to be the old thing about specific risk assessments and blanket approach. In the ideal world, every stretch of road would have a local speed limit which would reflect the safe speed for that road. Even better we could say that in wet condition the speed limit should be 40 mph but 70 mph in dry with each driver doing their own dynamic risk assessment to decide what is the best speed limit for that stretch of the road. Would it work? Unfortunately there are not enough people in all of the highways departments the UK to make such a system work, so we’re stuck with a blanket approach rather like those building sites that insists that everybody working in their site must have full PPE including hard hat, boots, gloves and safety glasses despoil the fact that most if the time on most parts of the site they don’t need all of these things at once. That’s just the way of the world.
achrn  
#45 Posted : 17 June 2014 08:51:26(UTC)
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achrn

A Kurdziel wrote:
In the ideal world, every stretch of road would have a local speed limit which would reflect the safe speed for that road.
This is still assuming that speed limits are only about avoiding the vehicle driving into stuff, which is not the case.
stevedm  
#46 Posted : 17 June 2014 09:05:35(UTC)
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stevedm

Driving is a skill based, rule governed, expressive activity...so sort out peoples behaviour and the inappropriate speed debate goes away...
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