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Good morning
As part of setting up a site within larger premises we have supplied a fire extinguisher - brand new from a well known supplier.
Our client has pointed out we have failed to have a commissioning service carried out and consequently lack the documentary proof of this.
Having looked into this briefly it appears the client is correct (BS5306 pt3 2009).
How do others on the forum deal with this ? - do you arrange a fire company to supply the extinguisher then attend site to commission it?
Any advice appreciated
Thanks
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The commissioning Cert is usually included in the price and should come with a new/serviced extinguisher, however if you have simply been posted this from the company they cant commission it immediatly before placing it in its designated location . Whenever I buy an extinguisher, an engineer attends site and mounts it for us leaving an commissioning cert with me, ( but we use a local company down the road who we have good relationship with - ie, no silly call out costs)
This is however only a BS and not legislation.
As long as you are confident that the location and type of the extinguishers are correct, and that you have the fire log book to record your regular inspections your pretty compliant - it should also have been serviced prior to being sent to you this will need servicing again in a years time.
Good luck
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Cor blimey what a can of worms this could be???????
Does a new extinguisher need to be serviced prior to installation? Installation being siting onto a bracket drilled into a wall or placed into a position on a plastic extinguisher stand that is stood on the floor.
I would not purchase a "used" fire extinguisher.
What is "Annual Servicing" ? Does it involve opening up the extinguisher as in water/foam etc. or can it mean simply visually inspecting and weighing as in CO2?
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Having had a similar experience, if you are taking on sites and this happens from time to time I would be inclined to attend a course in commissioning with the IFE its not dear and can be beneficial in the future. I belive the BS state that third party certification is required and this can be obtained form the likes of BAFE and IFE is you wanted to go the whole hog but being part of your 9001 quality system should be just suffice, as gaining from the prementioned third parties is costly and quite frankly a rip off!
Good luck :-)
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Sorry jay
call me a sceptic but I never trust a company selling the service as being clear about the law - ask an electrician about PAT!
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Aleeman wrote:
This is however only a BS and not legislation.
As long as you are confident that the location and type of the extinguishers are correct, and that you have the fire log book to record your regular inspections your pretty compliant - it should also have been serviced prior to being sent to you this will need servicing again in a years time.
Its a fire extinguisher! What could be damaged en route that isn't obvious when the extinguisher is unpacked on site? How hard is it to screw the bracket into a wall and mount in a location as determined by a FRA?
Its worth asking the question: Who sits on the BS panel who makes these 'rules'?. You bet your life there's more people representing extinguisher suppliers that there are representing small businesses
I am a huge supporter of most of the BS advice, but sometimes I do wonder how impartial it is
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Its not difficult at all! that was the point. Its the BS that state it should be commissioned immediatly before. Hence:
"As long as you are confident that the location and type of the extinguishers are correct, and that you have the fire log book to record your regular inspections your pretty compliant" - ie, no need to get an engineer onsite to hang it on the wall.
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