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Pinnington20914  
#1 Posted : 13 June 2014 15:30:07(UTC)
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Pinnington20914

I'm looking for some possible guidance in relation to this subject. We're just about to re-launch our IT platform for the whole organisation and part of this will include permissions for staff to use their own devices safely on our systems. Although practically, its a good operational advantage but I'm really struggling with a position in relation to the DSE Regulations. By default we may be condoning the use of equipment not supplied by the organisation and deemed fit for purpose. Recently H&S articles have taken the view that in the age of Smartphones, I Phones, I Pads and Tablets it's becoming impossible for employers to reasonably manage the muscular-skeletal problems that arise. Computer use isn't restricted to the workplace anymore. Injury could have been been caused as much by playing on an an X Box as a work computer. Any views on the subject would be appreciated. I doubt, given that the only case law I can find on this subject goes back to before the regulations were introduced, there is likely to be any formal HSE guidance on the subject.
hopeful  
#2 Posted : 13 June 2014 15:54:26(UTC)
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hopeful

There was a forum thread on this a while ago, try a search to see if there was anything there. We are at a similar point as you I think
Pinnington20914  
#3 Posted : 13 June 2014 16:08:48(UTC)
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Pinnington20914

Thanks I'll do that.
A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 13 June 2014 16:55:31(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

When people look at DSE they often get hung up on the kit side of the equation- ergonomic this and ergonomic that when the most important thing is how the work is managed; telling people to take sensible breaks. That is relevant whatever sort of equipment they use, whether it is supplied by the employer or by the employee. The duty of care remains the same.
jay  
#5 Posted : 13 June 2014 17:06:17(UTC)
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jay

Are you referring to the use of their own devices outside your base i.e outside your offices etc , but at home or other remote locations? We also allow, subject to extremely robust IT security systems /standards, but have provided them with sensible guidelines. The DSE regs are impractical to apply in a prescribed manner, but its ergonomic principles could be broadly applied if relevant and the "soft" stuff such as microbreaks, posture etc
Pinnington20914  
#6 Posted : 18 June 2014 11:47:51(UTC)
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Pinnington20914

Thanks for the feedback. I'm thinking now in light of new working practices the emphasis should be on top quality e-learning that covers all static and mobile devices and the ways of using them safely. It's going to become impossible to assess everyone's workstation (Reg 2) when employees could choose to work from smartphones or tablets in coffee shops or in their own home. Has anyone got an example of a good e-learning set-up that would extend to mobile devices? The one's I've found so far only touch on them and they're extremly dry.
Graham  
#7 Posted : 18 June 2014 11:57:46(UTC)
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Graham

This reminds me of the post on the previous thread that said we should risk assess reading a book and I'd add writing on a notepad. Or is this going too far :-)...
Pinnington20914  
#8 Posted : 18 June 2014 12:04:27(UTC)
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Pinnington20914

Yep, That's why I think good robust e-learning should be the way forward. Empowering people to make their own decisions and leave the workplace set up to the employer. After all how can you decide whether the work contribuuted to RSI if they spend 4hrs every night on their XBox at home. As H&S legislation is being reviewed and streamlined then the DSE Regulations should be in the pile. Needs to reflect current working. Maybe a campaign needs to be started.
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