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meady  
#1 Posted : 16 June 2014 17:11:08(UTC)
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meady

I have recently passed the NEBOSH General Certificate course and am new to IOSH so I'm hoping that I can get some info out of you guys. The problem I have is enforcing the one-way traffic system at work. We have a system in place but staff and delivery drivers in vans and HGV's regularly disregard it as it takes a good 3 minutes to drive around to the back and come through the site properly. Some members of the public also use our site as a cut through as it saves them a good 47 seconds on their journey. I feel that we should install Alligator ramps (or similar) to make sure the one way system is maintained.....however, this comes at a large cost and I am unsure the company will go for it. 1. What is the law on enforcing a one way system? 2. Does anyone have any alternative solutions that I may be able to adopt? 3. Is it enough for myself to simply suggest an action and if management refuse to install the controls then that's their choice or can/should I take the matter further? I'm pretty sure I know what you're going to say but I feel that I could do with some guidance too. Many thanks Dave
godscrasher  
#2 Posted : 16 June 2014 19:31:08(UTC)
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godscrasher

Could you give us a drawing of the site layout and what is already in place against what is happening with delivery drivers and the public. Cheaper options (without seeing the plan) could be using cones and barriers to force them round. Add signs to direct them. Can you give inductions? Use of infringement notices or ban them from site etc... Just thinking off the top of my head, but a traffic management plan would be good.
godscrasher  
#3 Posted : 16 June 2014 19:33:46(UTC)
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godscrasher

P.S Question 3. Email them giving the details of what you propose and justified reasons why? Really do all you can that you see fit to get change. Go through the motions of getting 3 quotes for them, cost benefit everything and explain how you would monitor change along with the evaluating success of the scheme. You really need to get them to buy into it.
JohnW  
#4 Posted : 16 June 2014 21:14:08(UTC)
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JohnW

meady, is this a public road a shared industrial estate road a private (your company or landlord's) road? If it's the 3rd then you could deter the public with No Unauthorised Entry sign A drawing would be useful. If you have nowhere to upload an image let me know. JohnW
grim72  
#5 Posted : 17 June 2014 08:47:52(UTC)
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grim72

Maybe see if you can find any references to fines imposed on companies for failing to manage traffic correctly. It's not quite the same as your scenario but I had noticed this one on the HSE site last week: http://press.hse.gov.uk/...-life-changing-injuries/
meady  
#6 Posted : 17 June 2014 09:38:00(UTC)
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meady

First of all thanks a lot for your comments!! GODSCRASHER: How do I post a layout of the site on here? I am going to create a plan for reasons why we should make the changes and see if management agree or not. I have already mentioned the subject a couple of times but if I make my proposal more official then they might go for it. JOHNW: Entrance to the rear is via a public road Entrance to the front is via a public road which runs through a small industrial estate The site itself (back gate to front gate) is the companies private property The problems are that delivery/collection drivers come in via the front instead of the rear, and that sometimes a member of the public will cut through to save themselves having to go around via a busy junction. GRIM: Thank you. I will look for references to put into my proposals to my boss. The link will be useful for another issue that I think I might have in the near future.
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 17 June 2014 13:05:53(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Management must be onside to make example of those who fail to conform. Public through-access of your site is a real concern.
jay  
#8 Posted : 17 June 2014 14:06:41(UTC)
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jay

It appears that you do not have access /egress control by means of a gate controlled by personnel/electronically and without it, it is unlikely you will succeed as there always will be those who look for a shortcut /rat-run etc. Signage on its own is unlikely to deter all. It is simpler to control a site that has a single access/egress point instead of 2
A Kurdziel  
#9 Posted : 17 June 2014 14:42:51(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I agree with the previous post. You need some sort of access control to keep out the public and to monitor access to the site by delivery drivers etc. If the delivery are not following the rules those drivers should be excluded from the site.
godscrasher  
#10 Posted : 17 June 2014 21:40:13(UTC)
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godscrasher

Hi, If you do your drawing etc and save as a jpeg. Upload that JPEG (or whatever format you're saving it in) to an image hosting site like IMGUR, or Imageshack etc. Once it's uploaded copy and past the link and past it in a response. Hope this helps
meady  
#11 Posted : 24 June 2014 09:50:59(UTC)
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meady

Hi again. Thanks again for all your help, it's helped me a lot. I am currently working with my manager to get this issue resolved. We are looking at getting signs, new road markings on site and electronic/automatic gates installed too!! Until then, we are using a chain to keep the road inaccessible to the public and is only taken down to allow for delivery drivers (driving in the correct direction) to pass through. Many thanks again for all of your input Dave
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