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Appreciate any assistance advise on the following:
Can the following be stored together safely in a caged area inside a small warehouse? All are in small amounts and are used on aircraft
UN1044 Compressed or liquefied gas
UN1072 Oxygen compressed
UN 0323 explosive 1.4S
UN 3363 Dangerous Goods in Apparatus
UN 2990 LIFE-SAVING APPLIANCE, SELF-INFLATING
UN2795 BATTERIES,WET,FILLED WITH ALKALI
Thanks
mike
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Mike,
I would say absolutely not! LPG and O2 need a 30 minute fire seperation and even though they are present in small quantities this should be observed. Batteries pose a risk of ignition near Gases and and explosive! you life saving equipment could deteriorate if exposed to fumes or splashes from any of the items in storage and is not easily accessible if locked in a cage.
Kevin
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On the face of it this wouldn't comply with GN2 BCGA COP...that said small quantities can be stored inside as you will probably be more worried about theft of the small cylinders...the fire risk assessment and DSEAR assessment for the building would have to be updated accordingly...if MOD site then Defence fire would need to be involved..
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Looked up UN 1044 and got back "Fire extinguishers containing compressed or liquefied gas" whcih might change people's views .Like other people I assumed that this was LPG, which should definitely not be stored alongside oxygen
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I would suggest if these are in small amounts e.g. Limited Quantity then yes. UN 1044 is generally safe if they are protected against inadvertent discharge. Being regulated Dangerous Goods I assume they are packed in UN approved packaging.
Further consideration perhaps to length of time stored, early warning in case of fire
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Whether this is a spoof posting or not, UN1044 is compressed or liquified gas
Good old Wikipedia says
UN 1044 2 Fire extinguishers containing compressed or liquefied gas
So looks like carbon dioxide fire exinguishers
So just because the original post says UN1044, its is wrong of others to leap to the conclusion that LPG was being discussed. Dom't jump to conclusions
All of the other items in the OP are found around aircraft.
My only query would be the use of Co2 - the last time I checked Halon or BCF was still used for onboard aircraft fire extinguishers.
Co2 was used for ground engineers fire fighting equipment.
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You can also use the HSE guidance HSG71 Chemical Warehousing :The storage of packaged dangerous substances.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/hsg71.htm
Pg 20 onwards gives segregation advice for different class dangerous goods.
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Have to agree with Nici, there has been no mention of LPG. Interesting how this has been interpreted. If you think about it the Risk Assessment has been done for you, these are UN approved and as mentioned in small amounts, and are used on aircraft. These can all be transported in a passenger aircraft quite safely together albeit a few special provisions needs to be applied), storing them in a warehouse in a cage would be an extremely low risk.
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RTFQ comes to mind ...... Read The Flipping Question - not what you think it says!!
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As per my knowledge and thinking it should not be stored together.
1. Considering that UN 1044 2 Fire extinguishers containing compressed or liquefied gas, in case of release it may cause asphyxiation.
2. Oxygen release will aid fire and will cause more damage.
3. Explosives need to be stored as per the guide lines or rule book. In contact with oxygen it will be more dangerous.
4. Alkalies shall not be stored along with life saving eqipment as any spillage will lead to damage to equipment.
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