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Hi All,
If I am successful with an interview I attended during the week, I shall have to sit a 4 hour psychmetric test. Could anybody recommend practice tests that I could purchase, specific to health and safety professionals. I did google it, yet there is a vast array of results, at varying prices.
Would appreciate any recommendations! :)
Thanks!
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Hi Tessie,
See attached link which have number of different test that you can undertake for free.
http://psychometric-succ...nload-practice-tests.htm
With regards buying a specific one for health and safety, there is not a one fits all, and the types of test will be specific to the company and role.
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4 hours is a big test - I hope the job is a very significant one to merit that much effort in recruitment.
Psychometric tests are designed to establish what makes you tick as an individual and therefore trying to tailor answers towards what you perceive to be the answers that are wanted will produce strange results. Also your perception of what is expected and what the recruiter hopes to see may wildly vary.
This also supposes that the recruiter knows what they are looking for in a candidate and how to interpret the answers given.
And if you do manage to answer in the way that the recruiter thinks is a good fit for their organisation whilst not revealing your real preferences and character, what will be the outcome?
My advice would be to tackle the tests head-on. If you do not get a job offer accept that they were looking for a different person and the job would not have been any good for you.
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Whenever I have applied for a job that subsequently requires the candidate to complete psychometric tests, I always withdraw from the job.
They have little bearing on the ability to be a good h&s manager/adviser etc.
Many have been discredited.
If my qualifications and interview skills/style aren't good enough, then so be it.
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Hi Tessie,
I'd ask them why they intend to do this and what their objectives are. I would agree with David about the difficulty of 'second guessing' the 'right' answers.
I've done them before and I'm informed that I'm a stable extrovert [amongst other traits!]- didn't get that job so I guess they may have wanted someone unstable perhaps-it really is a 'snake oil' business and some recruiters haven't the faintest idea of the limitations of such tests.
Regards
Mike
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Tessie
While rehearsing well-designed psychometric tests can't do you harm, you have no reliable way of knowing how they are being interpreted, or of the reliability and validity of the instruments being used.
Probably the best use of your time is to get a copy of a book that explains the levels of reliability and validity of well-designed tests - which are often higher than the reliability and validity of may interviews.
An inexpensive good guide by the chartered occupational psychologist Ceri Roderick is available at www.amazon.co.uk and through good bookshops
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Jackie Robertson wrote:Whenever I have applied for a job that subsequently requires the candidate to complete psychometric tests, I always withdraw from the job.
They have little bearing on the ability to be a good h&s manager/adviser etc.
Many have been discredited.
If my qualifications and interview skills/style aren't good enough, then so be it.
I agree.
I would not want to work for any company that believes in this mumbo jumbo
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Dennish - Many thanks! Appreciate your assistance :)
David - Yeah, it's a very substantial role in Perth, Australia. I know another girl working on the project, and it is a fantastic opportunity. I believe psychometric testing is popular in Australia. After a few practice tests, I wholly understand your view on them!
Jackie - I do understand your stance, yet, it is such a great opportunity, I'd be willing to see how far I get in the recruitment stage :/
Mike - I believe I'd be competent within the role; yet with the results of a few of the abstract reasoning tests I've done online, I'm unsure if I'd shine through!!! It's a tough one!
Kieran D - Will have to see if this book is available in the city as its not available for kindle. Will keep an eye out - thanks!
Walker - I've never experienced such mumbo jumbo until I worked in Australia!!
I am puzzled that they are sending the most successful interview candidate for the psychometric test, and not the final two candidates.
Greatly appreciate the time you all took to reply! :)
Thanks!
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walker wrote:Jackie Robertson wrote:If my qualifications and interview skills/style aren't good enough, then so be it.
I agree.
I would not want to work for any company that believes in this mumbo jumbo
Sometimes there is no choice - it is a requirement of an international convention. No idea on this particular post, but you sometimes have to do it, whatever your views on the validity!
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Good luck Tessie - hope they are contributing to your travel expenses for the test :-)
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Some of these posts reminded me of the Groucho Marx quote
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member"
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I had to undergo one of these tests a while back and can't for the life of me see how on earth the potential employer can tell what makes me tick from it. To me it was a waste of time and not something i wish to repeat. I was invited back for a further interview but i was offered another job (no psycho test required) at the same time and decided to go for that instead.
Unfortunately more and more companies appear to be doing this. I can only think that they use these tests as a justification not to hire somebody rather than have a potential employee complain that they weren't given a fair chance at an interview.
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It is my understanding that psychometric tests could be a part of the selection process that provides limited insight into personality type. The properly designed ones do indeed provide the insight, but the outcomes need to be judged professionally, and not by lay-persons, as for many of the questions, there is no "perfect" or "correct" answer. The tests can be one of the wide range of tools used, especially for positions in which the employer is looking for a particular personality type or wanting to avoid particular perosnality types. It need not be mumbo-jumbo.
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It depends rather what is meant by 'psychometric testing'. There is certainly some that extends into mumbo-jumbo, but there's also a lot that is well-accepted.
As an example - I believe all UK train operating companies require drivers to pass Bourdon tests (or similar), and I think selecting train-drivers (at least partially) for an ability to concentrate while doing repetitive tasks at speed is a good idea. That's certainly psychometric testing, do the people that are keen to say it's all nonsense really think that you shouldn't test potential train drivers for their ability to maintain concentration when working?
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If you can, ask them what sort of things you'll be doing before the day - they may give you some pointers at least!
Types of test
Numeracy skills - you can practice beforehand on the lines of what's next in sequence 1, 2, 4.....
Logical reasoning tests
Lateral thinking (can you think out of the box or do you take more of a methodical, step by step approach).
Risk taking exercise (scenario given and asks how you would approach this - cut corners to get task done or fail to complete the task but taken every precaution).
Extrovert / introvert
Loner v's team player.
How you cope with stress situations (you have 15 minutes to undertake the task or everyone in the room dies...not literally but to see how you do against the clock and when the stakes are high).
Communication skills - leader or follower?
I've done a few in my time (online and in person) and they aren't pleasant. If you don't know the answer then move on (or say so if its a one to one or group exercide) rather than flannel or waste time trying to work out the answer. If you have time, you can always go back and have another go (depending on the system).
Good Luck!
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It has the same bearing as being an Chartered member of IOSH etc. it is s standard but doesn't say how well you can do a job
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I always wanted to be a...
Lion Tamer or a Lumberjack.
Sing along if you wish.....
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Think positively and just do it. You can't bias the test as if it's any good they put control questions in there to detect this.
You may be found to have a split personality, bi-polar, etc...in which case ask them to double the salary as they're getting two for the price of one!
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There may be some benefit in these tests on a personal basis however if an employer starts this type of harassment at interview imagine what else might be in store for you if appointed.
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You can hardley count it as harrassment can you! They are using what is considered a tried and tested method. I'm not a great lover of them but this doesn't mean I would have reservations against a company who users them.
We always know once they have accepted our application the format that the selection process will take so it is up to the individual if they want to go ahead.
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Many thanks to all for taking the time to share their comments and knowledge.
I was called for a second interview and a "timed exercise" which was to conduct a plant risk assessment on a chainsaw.
Currently awaiting to hear if I'm through to the next round. It will be the psychometric test. The HR lady said, the Senior Management of the company reviewed the position and have denoted approximately 8 key attributes they believe are essential in the role. The test is developed to the company's needs, not a general test!
Fingers crossed!
Thanks again :)
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I'm the process of applying for a job that uses this system - bit of a worry as I know I'm Psycho but useless at metric!
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