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Roundtuit  
#1 Posted : 04 July 2014 19:49:29(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The rules are fairly clear that employers should not charge for the issue of Personal Protective Equipment Prescription Safety Glasses and Display Screen Equipment spectacles arguably come under the description of Personal Protective Equipment. So whilst an employer does not directly charge the employee should they list the cost of such devices on the P11D to HMRC as a Benefit in Kind for the employee? The employee would receive a reduced tax free amount as a consequence of such a report effectively equalling a charge. Thoughts?
Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 04 July 2014 19:49:29(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The rules are fairly clear that employers should not charge for the issue of Personal Protective Equipment Prescription Safety Glasses and Display Screen Equipment spectacles arguably come under the description of Personal Protective Equipment. So whilst an employer does not directly charge the employee should they list the cost of such devices on the P11D to HMRC as a Benefit in Kind for the employee? The employee would receive a reduced tax free amount as a consequence of such a report effectively equalling a charge. Thoughts?
paul.skyrme  
#3 Posted : 04 July 2014 20:15:28(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

IMHO no, if they are PPE, they are PPE, they are NOT BIK. When I worked for a "global blue chip" organisation such things were not listed, even after we had had an IR investigation into our expenses policy. Now I am a one person Ltd. CO. then I still don't list them as BIK & my accountant has not picked up on it.
chris.packham  
#4 Posted : 05 July 2014 10:33:54(UTC)
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chris.packham

Benefit in king arises when the person derives personal benefit from what the employer has provided. Assuming that your employee has their own prescription spectacles for use away from the workplace then no benefit in kind would arise. As an example, some time ago I had my own personal motor car which I used to commute to work (at least in theory as I worked within walking distance of the office). I had a company vehicle that I used for all company travel (and a log book was kept to confirm this), but not for personal travel. The IRS agreed that no benefit in kind existed.
BJC  
#5 Posted : 06 July 2014 10:29:26(UTC)
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The HMRC work in mysterious ways and also wish to abolish courts for the confiscation of peoples monies. Be very careful attempting to put anything through the books as the fines are horrendous.
achrn  
#6 Posted : 07 July 2014 08:27:17(UTC)
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achrn

Roundtuit wrote:
So whilst an employer does not directly charge the employee should they list the cost of such devices on the P11D to HMRC as a Benefit in Kind for the employee? The employee would receive a reduced tax free amount as a consequence of such a report effectively equalling a charge.
Yes, PPE should be listed on P11D, no you don't pay tax on it. This tells the employer they don't pay tax or NI on PPE: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/p...i/exb/a-z/c/clothing.htm This tells the employee (scroll down to clothing): http://www.adviceguide.o..._common_benefits_in_kind I think the exemption comes under TCTM04202, but I'm not sure of that (which is why I have an accountant): http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/m.../tctmanual/TCTM04202.htm
A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 07 July 2014 10:05:46(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

We have had this problems with PPE (bad weather clothing) for our fieldworkers. If you supply this stuff you must make it absolutely clear to the employees that this is for work only and not any sort of perk or you can get stung for the tax on the perk( benefit in kind)
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