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lesdavison  
#1 Posted : 08 July 2014 11:12:22(UTC)
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lesdavison

We have been advised that we should treat our elected Councillors grey fleet mileage in the same way as we do for staff members.
my question is:
Should we veiw, varify and retain copies of driving licences, car insurance etc bearing in mind that they are not employees or should we adopt a self declaration system whereby we accept their word that they have appropriate documents in place.
simplesafety  
#2 Posted : 08 July 2014 11:19:03(UTC)
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simplesafety

Barbour did a webinar on this topic in Oct last year, it might be able to answer your question:


http://vimeo.com/78147679
jwk  
#3 Posted : 08 July 2014 12:03:10(UTC)
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jwk

Les,

Simple question; 'are they engaged in the Council's undertaking?' If yes, the same safety rules should apply, so far as reasonably practicable, as apply to paid workers. My employer has about 40,000 volunteers, some of them drive on blue lights, it's a nightmare, believe me,

John
A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 08 July 2014 12:20:24(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I believe that elected officials are not classified as employees (I know MPs are not) and thus they are not subject to H&S law in the same way as the rest of us.
This means it is down to council policy ( which is, of course set by the elected members!)

Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 08 July 2014 12:27:30(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Why give yourself the headache of copying, keeping and constantly updating sensitive (Data Protection Act) documents?
Those you trust to check the documentation should (given appropriate training, information and instruction)be entrusted to do just that, and keeping appropriate records.
Is there any value at all in photocopies?
colinreeves  
#6 Posted : 08 July 2014 13:52:13(UTC)
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colinreeves

Ron Hunter wrote:
Is there any value at all in photocopies?


No copies ... how do you prove to your auditor that you have done what is required?
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 08 July 2014 15:48:11(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

colinreeves wrote:

No copies ... how do you prove to your auditor that you have done what is required?


That path leads to madness. How do you prove that "you" took the copy, and that it wasn't itself a copy of a copy.............. of a fake? ;)

Checksheets, signatures, declarations, a bit of supervision.I.I T. and monitoring - all good.
bob youel  
#8 Posted : 09 July 2014 07:05:17(UTC)
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bob youel

Have the person/body who advised you explain to you on what ground their advice is based noting the people concerned
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